05-22-2022, 11:12 AM
I think that the Liberals forgot who they were supposed to be representing and the independents filled that void to some extent - as the voters weren't going to switch to Labor. The independents seems to be capable people, but time will tell. This and, in Vic, the dislike of Morrison was a big factor. There have been a few good (as far as I am aware) Liberals lose their seat - the old do you vote for/against the party or the candidate. In this case it was against the party to the candidate's downfall.
I flicked between the channels last night - I thought Birmingham was pretty reasonable. It would also be a shame for the Liberals if Constance didn't get in - he seems like a pretty solid person who wants to better the community (don't know of the Labor member at all)
If the liberals can turn around and show decency to all, stop obfuscating, show that they will make decisions that benefit the country, treat women with respect (including pre-selecting capable women in winnable seats) some of the independent vote will go back.
Interesting that in WA there can't be much of a Liberal party left. Nothing in State and smashed Federal.
I wonder how much the decrease in vote to LNP and Labor was from people like me - don't number them one, but number so that the least worst gets the preference.
In Vic, Morrison was on the nose. There is a pretty strong anti Andrews sentiment as well, but I don't think if Guy plays as a small target that will be enough.
I flicked between the channels last night - I thought Birmingham was pretty reasonable. It would also be a shame for the Liberals if Constance didn't get in - he seems like a pretty solid person who wants to better the community (don't know of the Labor member at all)
If the liberals can turn around and show decency to all, stop obfuscating, show that they will make decisions that benefit the country, treat women with respect (including pre-selecting capable women in winnable seats) some of the independent vote will go back.
Interesting that in WA there can't be much of a Liberal party left. Nothing in State and smashed Federal.
I wonder how much the decrease in vote to LNP and Labor was from people like me - don't number them one, but number so that the least worst gets the preference.
In Vic, Morrison was on the nose. There is a pretty strong anti Andrews sentiment as well, but I don't think if Guy plays as a small target that will be enough.