01-12-2022, 09:48 PM
There is a point that I find difficult to understand.
Had we not vaccinated, would the pandemic look any different?
Its really difficult to quantify (and I don't think anyone really wants to find out because that cat is out of the bag once its out and there is no changing it).
Thing is, we should see a disproportionate number of cases, and excess deaths in regions where vaccination rates are low.
I.e. There is a region of India, called Utter Pradesh. They have registered few cases, and I would wager, have been able to vaccinate fewer rather than more in a population of over 200 million people. Their numbers dont look ridiculous, and Id wager their access to health care slim.
For data's sake.
Their population:
Population as of 2021 according to this page: https://www.indiaonlinepages.com/populat...ation.html
They have counted: 35.9 million cases, and 484k covid deaths.
They have vaccinated, 9.37b total doses, so have 3.92 billion fully vaccinated. 50% of their population.
You can spin these numbers how you like, and possibly support a variety of outcomes. One thing I can state, is that they likely have population not counted, that similarly cant test positive, when you deal with such a logistical nightmare (look whats happening to our ability to count cases reliably in a city with 6 million people at a relatively small number of cases per day).
Irrespective of how you count this, should there not be a remarkably high number of excess deaths in those sorts of populations? Vaccination rate is fairly low, so you would estimate the ability to protect in such a large population would be tricky, and their ability to distance, mask wear, do all the hand washing would be negligible too.
It's the sort of thing that never really rates a mention, and I understand why, its of no great comparison to us here in the western world, with big Australian backyards and not so much poverty.
Had we not vaccinated, would the pandemic look any different?
Its really difficult to quantify (and I don't think anyone really wants to find out because that cat is out of the bag once its out and there is no changing it).
Thing is, we should see a disproportionate number of cases, and excess deaths in regions where vaccination rates are low.
I.e. There is a region of India, called Utter Pradesh. They have registered few cases, and I would wager, have been able to vaccinate fewer rather than more in a population of over 200 million people. Their numbers dont look ridiculous, and Id wager their access to health care slim.
For data's sake.
Their population:
Population as of 2021 according to this page: https://www.indiaonlinepages.com/populat...ation.html
They have counted: 35.9 million cases, and 484k covid deaths.
They have vaccinated, 9.37b total doses, so have 3.92 billion fully vaccinated. 50% of their population.
You can spin these numbers how you like, and possibly support a variety of outcomes. One thing I can state, is that they likely have population not counted, that similarly cant test positive, when you deal with such a logistical nightmare (look whats happening to our ability to count cases reliably in a city with 6 million people at a relatively small number of cases per day).
Irrespective of how you count this, should there not be a remarkably high number of excess deaths in those sorts of populations? Vaccination rate is fairly low, so you would estimate the ability to protect in such a large population would be tricky, and their ability to distance, mask wear, do all the hand washing would be negligible too.
It's the sort of thing that never really rates a mention, and I understand why, its of no great comparison to us here in the western world, with big Australian backyards and not so much poverty.
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Paul Hewson
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