As an aside, I heard virologist/epidemiologist talk on the radio two nights back, it was live talk on a BBC World channel, and I haven't found an internet copy yet but if I do I will post it.
They said most of the debate lacks a critical 3rd perspective and that has allowed a fantasy to persist, the fantasy is that vaccines kill.
Now at first this seems controversial, because we all know people can have severe reactions, but it is really coming from a very broad 3rd perspective. Statistically the truth is the vaccines save about a 1000 for every 1 they hurt! Where does that come from? Well COVID kills about 1000 out of every million, (In Western economies) while vaccine reactions kill 1 out of every million while saving about 970, vaccines aren't perfect, they won't save everybody, but statistically that is how effective the vaccines are, and it's almost unprecedented in history.
What about the 1?
The virologist/epidemiologist started their analysis from this perspective. It's sad that people die from a vaccine reaction, but it's highly likely that people who suffer badly or die from an adverse Sars-CoV-2 vaccine reaction are highly susceptible to the very same from the real Sars-CoV-2 virus. It is also highly likely that just like the common cold we will all get Sars-CoV-2 at some stage. So it's far better to issue the vaccines in controlled conditions, monitor the vaccine recipients in controlled conditions, try to identify and assist the 1 early, than to allow Sars-CoV-2 to run wild and kill the 970 that the vaccines would have saved.
This seems like a very sensible and reasonable position.
I definitely haven't related all the critical points as I was listening late at night, but you can see the general perspective this virology specialist was coming from. It makes sense.
They said most of the debate lacks a critical 3rd perspective and that has allowed a fantasy to persist, the fantasy is that vaccines kill.
Now at first this seems controversial, because we all know people can have severe reactions, but it is really coming from a very broad 3rd perspective. Statistically the truth is the vaccines save about a 1000 for every 1 they hurt! Where does that come from? Well COVID kills about 1000 out of every million, (In Western economies) while vaccine reactions kill 1 out of every million while saving about 970, vaccines aren't perfect, they won't save everybody, but statistically that is how effective the vaccines are, and it's almost unprecedented in history.
What about the 1?
The virologist/epidemiologist started their analysis from this perspective. It's sad that people die from a vaccine reaction, but it's highly likely that people who suffer badly or die from an adverse Sars-CoV-2 vaccine reaction are highly susceptible to the very same from the real Sars-CoV-2 virus. It is also highly likely that just like the common cold we will all get Sars-CoV-2 at some stage. So it's far better to issue the vaccines in controlled conditions, monitor the vaccine recipients in controlled conditions, try to identify and assist the 1 early, than to allow Sars-CoV-2 to run wild and kill the 970 that the vaccines would have saved.
This seems like a very sensible and reasonable position.
I definitely haven't related all the critical points as I was listening late at night, but you can see the general perspective this virology specialist was coming from. It makes sense.
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