08-10-2021, 06:33 AM
[member=324]DJC[/member] ^^
So we shouldn't use the other guys at the coalface, (one of the criticism from the North game, was that Cripps and Walsh in the middle limited the impact of Kennedy and Dow)?
Do we want to find out whether or not Lochie O'Brien is worth persisting with? Or do we lambast him for following his opponent into defence to create a 7 man defense?
Ive got no issue with what you write, but I'm just trying to show you that there are two sides to every decision, and if one wants to take a position either way, you can justify or criticise the thinking for roughly the same logic applied differently.
I personally didn't rate the decision to start Walsh off the half back line, but in footy, where they start is irrelevant, its where they spend most of their time that counts, and I didn't necessarily see Walsh spend 3/4 of the game in a back pocket, or half back flank trying to drive us forward off the half back line he just started in the back 6.
Dal Santo pointed out Jack Martin's work rate in the first quarter on the weekend, and that to me signified a much bigger problem. He spent his time running around the ground (fantastic work rate) only to burn all his chips, and not necessarily achieve much for the benefit of the overall team and structure. What one commentator talked up, I saw a real system issue unfolding at the time, and thought to myself, why on earth would one of our players do shuttle runs between the arcs to make position not to get used? What holes were they plugging, what did this do to our overall team structure, and is this the reason we couldn't generate run off half back? Its all relative. Systems should make the workload easier, because they have people sliding into positions to cover for someone who has gone off script, but not when they are working up and down the ground like that. Martin's movement was a positive for his workrate and a negative for structures, with a net break even or even to the detriment of the team. Unfortunately, this is what people see, this is what they laud, and this is where they dont understand that this only serves to confuse the inexperienced members of the team, even if it does blow up and opponent and does look like a bloke is trying really hard. They are too busy trying to do it all, and end up doing nothing.
My key take away at the moment, is that you can guage how well we are going to go at the ruck contest. The Jack Silvagni to the ruck ran out of usefulness on the weekend when facing Zac Smith who is a big strong bloke and was towelling up anyone we sent in there, because De Koning isnt battle hardened, and JSOS isnt a ruckman. That will play out again this week with Lycett in the ruck, so Im expecting that the mids are going to have to lift significantly this week.
So we shouldn't use the other guys at the coalface, (one of the criticism from the North game, was that Cripps and Walsh in the middle limited the impact of Kennedy and Dow)?
Do we want to find out whether or not Lochie O'Brien is worth persisting with? Or do we lambast him for following his opponent into defence to create a 7 man defense?
Ive got no issue with what you write, but I'm just trying to show you that there are two sides to every decision, and if one wants to take a position either way, you can justify or criticise the thinking for roughly the same logic applied differently.
I personally didn't rate the decision to start Walsh off the half back line, but in footy, where they start is irrelevant, its where they spend most of their time that counts, and I didn't necessarily see Walsh spend 3/4 of the game in a back pocket, or half back flank trying to drive us forward off the half back line he just started in the back 6.
Dal Santo pointed out Jack Martin's work rate in the first quarter on the weekend, and that to me signified a much bigger problem. He spent his time running around the ground (fantastic work rate) only to burn all his chips, and not necessarily achieve much for the benefit of the overall team and structure. What one commentator talked up, I saw a real system issue unfolding at the time, and thought to myself, why on earth would one of our players do shuttle runs between the arcs to make position not to get used? What holes were they plugging, what did this do to our overall team structure, and is this the reason we couldn't generate run off half back? Its all relative. Systems should make the workload easier, because they have people sliding into positions to cover for someone who has gone off script, but not when they are working up and down the ground like that. Martin's movement was a positive for his workrate and a negative for structures, with a net break even or even to the detriment of the team. Unfortunately, this is what people see, this is what they laud, and this is where they dont understand that this only serves to confuse the inexperienced members of the team, even if it does blow up and opponent and does look like a bloke is trying really hard. They are too busy trying to do it all, and end up doing nothing.
My key take away at the moment, is that you can guage how well we are going to go at the ruck contest. The Jack Silvagni to the ruck ran out of usefulness on the weekend when facing Zac Smith who is a big strong bloke and was towelling up anyone we sent in there, because De Koning isnt battle hardened, and JSOS isnt a ruckman. That will play out again this week with Lycett in the ruck, so Im expecting that the mids are going to have to lift significantly this week.
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