CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

So right wingers don’t paint everyone else as wrong  :-*  :-*

Here’s a tip: don’t watch FoxNews or SkyNews or listen to Alan Jones and his ilk.

The problem with your ode to libertarianism is that anti-vaxxers are pushing propaganda and misinformation rather than trying to contribute to debate. And vaccine refusal risks the health of the rest of the population. By all means, if someone wants to smoke cigarettes, let them. But if they want to smoke in restaurants or the like then there are clashing individual freedoms, the right to smoke vs. the right to avoid 2nd-hand smoke.

You argued a while back that we should let Covid rip after those that wanted a vaccine had been vaccinated. Underpinning your argument was the idea that the vaccinated would then be safe. But we’ve all been debating the significance of breakthrough infections for the last few days: they do occur, so the unvaccinated do endanger the vaccinated. And the more the unvaccinated are infected, the greater the risk that there’ll be mutations that beat the vaccine.

Just get the damn jab.

We are still going to have to let this thing rip, with or without vaccination, seems to only change whom is protected to what level.

Vaccination against COVID is dangerous for some people.  That's no reason to not do it.  You are effectively applying the same argument in reverse.

Therefore our arguments are more on the same page, than not, just applied differently.  Ergo, we are both arguing against ourselves because neither can assert a position of correct, because what is right changes depending on your perspective.


I am not absolving right wingers, but you start with the position of attacking them to discredit them because they are right wingers.  Right wing ideals do have valid arguments, irrespective of if you agree with them.