(06-12-2021, 07:39 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Only those with serious physical or mental health issues admitted for further treatment are included in any Govt data. In addition, clinical data from emergency departments (EDs) or primary health care services doesnt currently capture those presenting with intentional self-harm conditions. In cases of fatal drug overdose etc it will have respiratory failure as cause of death, unless its a crime or undetermined cause. A patient who is revived at the scene of an ambulance callout will not be admitted if they are considered to have recovered. They would have to admit themselves voluntarily.....so CoVid doesnt really have a heading when it comes to accurate stats.Ignoring what is reported about the how and why, if there are more deaths it shows in the totals, you don't need any other piece of data except the count relative to the monthly historical averages!
Do you honestly think the Government would want data released that pointed to a massive increase in attempted suicides, drug overdoses etc under their lockdown conditions?
I'm just telling you what the people at the front line are dealing with and its not masses of Covid cases like in India etc, Covid wards in Victoria are empty but mental health issues are up.....and they dont all make the stat sheet.
You are entitled to believe the Government data but I'll go with the people at the coalface who I can trust...if the official you listened to is suggesting CoVid has reduced mental health stats and crime like you suggested I find that laughable....
Critics can't assert there are more ODs, suicide attempts and mental health issues while at the same time complain that the system is broken with slower response and longer wait time due to COVID, yet get a better outcome! That is the absurdity of what is being asserted, there is more of everything bad, but a better outcome because the number of deaths hasn't increased or has even dropped despite all these increased attempts and ODs!
Lots of people have made this assertion of increased deaths by suicide and ODs every lockdown, many on social media, many in traditional media, it has become part of the anti-lockdown mantra, but not one has shown that the numbers actually increase. If I recall correctly in the 2nd lockdown when these accusations were made the Bureau of Statistics reported we actually had less deaths versus typical historical averages, as well as lower crime stats and lower pollution levels.
I'm, pretty confident the total official death count is accurate, so where to............................?
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

