04-21-2021, 09:20 PM
@ Kruddler
I understand the point you're making regarding "Supporter v supporter"
I think we all appreciate that powerful 'Supporters" outside the club have influenced the running of the club...that extends even beyond the 20 year 'dark ages'.
It raises a couple of points and questions.
Firstly I have no doubt that these folks (Pratts, Mathieson,...Elliotts in the past) are all solid Carlton people.
They all want success for the club.
In that respect they're pretty much the same as us.
They differ from the average supporter in that they have significant financial and political (at a club level) influence.
The question is how much they enjoy that power and control and the positive and negative benefits of its influence.
Given that they're supporters much like us.....do they react and move on the basis of what they perceive as a general feeling for change amongst the general Carlton population or do they move when they want to.
In other words... are they the cart or the horse?
So we understand that these people have had a significant impact on club politics.
If this is at the heart of our problems how is it resolved?
I'm not sure it's possible.
A first step would be a total board change.
A new independent group...but how independent would any group be?
How do you stop the wealthy from involving themselves.
The likely result would just be a switch to another faction.
I understand the point you're making regarding "Supporter v supporter"
I think we all appreciate that powerful 'Supporters" outside the club have influenced the running of the club...that extends even beyond the 20 year 'dark ages'.
It raises a couple of points and questions.
Firstly I have no doubt that these folks (Pratts, Mathieson,...Elliotts in the past) are all solid Carlton people.
They all want success for the club.
In that respect they're pretty much the same as us.
They differ from the average supporter in that they have significant financial and political (at a club level) influence.
The question is how much they enjoy that power and control and the positive and negative benefits of its influence.
Given that they're supporters much like us.....do they react and move on the basis of what they perceive as a general feeling for change amongst the general Carlton population or do they move when they want to.
In other words... are they the cart or the horse?
So we understand that these people have had a significant impact on club politics.
If this is at the heart of our problems how is it resolved?
I'm not sure it's possible.
A first step would be a total board change.
A new independent group...but how independent would any group be?
How do you stop the wealthy from involving themselves.
The likely result would just be a switch to another faction.