04-21-2021, 02:01 AM
(04-21-2021, 01:17 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:What point are you arguing here Paulp?
I have just outlined why the culture of the place is rotten , and you don't believe a word of it, yet the post itself is a summary of how the Carlton Football Club has performed its business since the year 2001. We are still unable to exorcise the demons and behave the same way and I hear the fans saying it too "we are not a club to be feared anymore" is the line rolled out on these very forums, yet the reason why that is, is a cause and effect of our whole of club approach and that's what causes players not to buy in.
We have won more wooden spoons and had more high draft picks than almost any other team in the competition and still look much the same every week. A haphazard approach to playing footy.
The repetition of that cycle causes what LP labels pavlov's dogs. He points to the kids as being developed that way through adversity by the approach and to a degree he has nailed that. The club is the one that is placing them in the position of adversity. The thing is, it isn't restricted to the kids. Its even affecting a guy like Cripps now. Its like quicksand. It eventually drags everyone down to a certain level.
Your point, as I understand it, is that our players pick and choose, or give up easily, and they have done so for 20 years. If this is true, then they are either born that way or made that way. If they are born that way, and we continue to select those types, then we have a problem. If they are made to become like that, because of things inside the 4 walls at Ikon Park, then we have a huge, massive problem, and we are not fit to be called a professional sporting club.