03-28-2021, 11:35 PM
Just to add to BigNic's post. I have compared Carlton's lists since 2015 against Richmond - just numbers, not quality of list:
Number of players since 2015:
- Carlton 116
- Richmond 85
Number of players still on the list since 2015:
- Carlton 6 (Curnow E, Casboult, Jones, Murphy, Cripps, Docherty)
- Richmond 13 (Houli, Astbury, Martin, Grimes, Soldo, Riewoldt, Castagna, McIntosh, Lambert, Vlaustin, Edwards, Cotchin, Short)
Number of players still on the list since 2018:
- Carlton 20
- Richmond 28
Average years on a the list:
- Carlton 2.74
- Richmond 3.65
Coaches:
Carlton - 4? (Malthouse, Barker, Bolton, Teague)
Richmond - 1
Greater turnover of players makes it a lot harder to recruit, as priorities about which needs are greater have to be made, or recruits need to be made equally across a number of areas - a few more 'Hail Mary' recruits are made, hoping that they work. This is a lot harder than have a stable side and being able to easily identify recruiting needs. The effect is a less successful side has a lot more riding on getting the recruiting (and then development) right.
A more stable club has a stronger culture and knows what it is on about. How much easier is it for Cotchin, who has played under 1 coach, then Murphy who has played under 6 (I think) to build a relationship, trust, understanding, learn a game plan, and its tweaks and understanding what is trying to be achieved.
There was a post somewhere about SWOT, Mission Statements etc much easier in a stable environment - people laughed at Gale and Peggy when they put theirs out. Not sure who is currently laughing. Strength and stability matters with these. With new administrations, ideas, paths, these become meaning less. Richmond has known what it wanted to achieve and has gone about ruthlessy delivering. and Mission Statements etc become corporate nonsense.
Number of players since 2015:
- Carlton 116
- Richmond 85
Number of players still on the list since 2015:
- Carlton 6 (Curnow E, Casboult, Jones, Murphy, Cripps, Docherty)
- Richmond 13 (Houli, Astbury, Martin, Grimes, Soldo, Riewoldt, Castagna, McIntosh, Lambert, Vlaustin, Edwards, Cotchin, Short)
Number of players still on the list since 2018:
- Carlton 20
- Richmond 28
Average years on a the list:
- Carlton 2.74
- Richmond 3.65
Coaches:
Carlton - 4? (Malthouse, Barker, Bolton, Teague)
Richmond - 1
Greater turnover of players makes it a lot harder to recruit, as priorities about which needs are greater have to be made, or recruits need to be made equally across a number of areas - a few more 'Hail Mary' recruits are made, hoping that they work. This is a lot harder than have a stable side and being able to easily identify recruiting needs. The effect is a less successful side has a lot more riding on getting the recruiting (and then development) right.
A more stable club has a stronger culture and knows what it is on about. How much easier is it for Cotchin, who has played under 1 coach, then Murphy who has played under 6 (I think) to build a relationship, trust, understanding, learn a game plan, and its tweaks and understanding what is trying to be achieved.
There was a post somewhere about SWOT, Mission Statements etc much easier in a stable environment - people laughed at Gale and Peggy when they put theirs out. Not sure who is currently laughing. Strength and stability matters with these. With new administrations, ideas, paths, these become meaning less. Richmond has known what it wanted to achieve and has gone about ruthlessy delivering. and Mission Statements etc become corporate nonsense.