(03-11-2021, 01:34 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Just to quote LP from a different thread, pretending the vaccine science is settled is rather unscientific isnt it?If you don't get a reaction to the vaccine, it is not working. You have to get a sore arm, or a slight fever, a runny nose or something to show signs of an immune reaction, it's not a magical mystery invisible shield. It gives you a little of what it protects you from so you don't get a lot! You could tell your brother the full COVID-19 might be the same symptoms potentially wound up to the point of death!
NOTE: I am not going to reject my vaccine when my time is up to get it. I dont like it, and I am free to not like it, and I am thankful that Italy and France have blocked the vaccines from arriving which is causing the delays as mentioned by DJC, BUT I am free to be skeptical about it and am going to be until its proven otherwise.
Food for thought, my brother had his first AstraZ vax on friday. Spent the whole weekend in bed sick. Not that there is anything to do in London currently but he has never felt so sick in his life. THAT is cause for some concern, and he thinks he has had covid (not that they tested him, but they told him to isolate because his coughing was so bad he went to hospital with a ruptured blood vessel in his throat, and they still didnt test him likely because they needed to flip him through the system quickly and he wasnt in dire need of hospitilisation.
THAT is the sort of thing we are NOT being told publically. Is he counted as COVID positive do you think?
Science is never settled, only fools think it is, and you won't find me writing that the science is settled anywhere, and scepticism is healthy as long as it is supported by suitable evidence. because new discoveries, new evidence, new knowledge changes the science.
I just think you need more than typical vaccine reactions to justify not getting vaccinated. people claim they get flu from the Influenza vaccine, well they do, that is how it works, but that flu doesn't kill them. And your reaction has to be more than a coincidence as well, there are so so many now vaccinated, and hardly an adverse reaction recorded.
If you gave 320 Million a dose of CoVID-19 instead of the COVID-19 vaccine, about 300,000 people would be dead within the first 28 days with more deaths to follow over the next few months!
Which is the whole point, that a weekend in bed is not worse than the ICU or death, well at least not for rational people! :o
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