CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

[member=105]Thryleon[/member]‍  You mentioned your workplace exposure, it's sounds comparable to the quarantine workers if not even higher risk, why not relate that experience?

Why should I answer this question, when you have already formed an opinion on your answer, with no respect to my experience nor why I am asking the question?  Seriously LP, this is more than just someone asserting an opinion here, and pretending to be right or wrong, and like I said before, I am not on trial, I am not a COVID denier, nor do I think that the pandemic is crap, but there are inconsistencies arising that just seem like logical fallousy and I am doing my best to understand them (no thanks to your opinionated response of "hes effectively an anti vaxxer and no amount of evidence will convince him otherwise", which is something you stated about me, and not something I stated about myself, which I find abhorrent).

So, I will provide a point to ponder here and answer you with an example of my experience (yes, its been a long 12 months), and rather than simply attack what is going to be said, let it sink in for a moment, and consider this from a very balanced and logical perspective, free from your previous biases and assertions.

In 1 circumstance, we had a colleague test positive.  That colleague took the virus home and infected the 5 people they live with, resulting in a small cluster forming in Heidelberg (you guys will remember that one it happened towards the end of our second lock down).  The source of that infection was a patient, that became covid positive post admission, and anyone who went into that ward was required to be tested.  It seemed relatively straight forward.  If it made its way through the PPE procedures, it spread to others as a virus does.  Fair enough too right?  Anyone who was in contact with said person in the workplace, did so whilst taking the appropriate precautions, and seem to have dodged this infection more by good luck as well as precaution than design.  This colleague consequently DID infect the 5 people they live with, and all family members tested positive.  This is inline with what my expectations of this virus, and pandemic do, and that makes sense.

Now, we have someone from hotel quarantine become covid positive.  They went out, with members of their family and people of their household, and despite this being a more virulent, and infections strain, somehow didnt manage to transmit to their family and household.  This is not in keeping with what my expectations of this pandemic and virus are all about.

I am questioning this, because, I seek to understand, what changes here.  Sure, the PPE preparation etc prevents spread to other members of public/workplace (because frankly, you dont get on the good foot and do the bad thing with everyone you work with), but it stands to reason, that the people you share living quarters, and meals with, are more likely to become covid positive living in the same place as someone else is COVID positive particularly if no one is aware that said person is actually covid positive.

Rather than attack that point, contemplate it.  You aren't rebutting anything here, you have simply attacked the poster, for asking the questions (and jumped straight on the offensive), and then instead of seeking to understand the trepidation they might have, simply asserted that there should be no trepidation.  THAT is where I am having some serious issues with you in this topic, and this is why when you state the following:

Nobody's posts or communications, no matter how trivial the content, forum or medium, are entitled to be free of analysis, rebuttal or responsibility.

You actually are failing to analyse, understand or rebutt, you are simply trying to paint someone as something they arent, and attack them for having an opinion that questions the status quo.

last I checked, we should welcome and question opposing ideas but I dont think what you are doing here is that, instead you are shutting down what i am saying with what I would call a pseudo scientific analysis of data.  Note, I am not seeking to silence anyone with respect to this pandemic, or vaccine, or anything.  I am simply asking some questions surrounding what I am seeing is some inconsistencies with how this pandemic is playing out.  Even so, I am unlikely to go on a tirade, or join a protest in the city, or even try to convince people what to do, but I do have some real questions about these inconsistencies, and they come having had some contact with a few different people from a few different walks of life who all agree that there are some rather uncomfortable versions of the truth out there, that only become truth by asserting they are the truth ignoring bits of information along the way.  Isnt that what we call a bias?