CV and mad panic behaviour

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I don't question that [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member]‍, as I stated to [member=105]Thryleon[/member]‍ getting vaccinated is a personal choice.

I don't think there is any evidence that the vaccines are unsafe, there may be a lot of social media opinion, Instagram and Facebook conspiratorial suspicions, but no reputable evidence that I can find that the vaccines aren't safe, not a skerrick.

Now almost 50M vaccine shots have been issued globally, Israel started almost 2 months ago and that is 5M people or about 50% of it's population, do you think that is not enough time or people to be building a case for or against! For me that is good enough evidence that the vaccine is safe, the reports are where those vaccines are issued the infection and death rates are falling dramatically, for Thryleon it isn't enough. He wants more time, but more time comes at a risk also, do you think that risk of delay is a price worth paying? So I've asked a very simple question, what evidence does he require to accept that the vaccine is safe, in effect he answered nothing can be offered that can convince him! It's all there in the record of posts, or should I say isn't there in the record!

Can you answer that same question, what evidence do you require, when will you believe the vaccines are safe?

I don't think any vaccine, ever, has been 100% safe. There are always individuals, as few as they may be, who will have an adverse reaction. I vividly recall those recruit school days at HMAS Cerberus when all us newbies had to line up for our inoculations. And the lines consisted of about 200 or so young blokes, left arms bare, ready for the jabs. There was always three or four 'fainters' and the odd one who'd end up in sick bay for a few days. And we were given 3 shots at the same time, Yellow Fever, one I've forgotten and TB. I remember feeling a little crook for a day or two. Every now and then you'd hear of a bloke who had such a bad reaction he was discharged out of the Navy into a public hospital for special care.

It's not hard to see why so many folks are still skeptical of inoculations. We live in a world where we spend half our time sorting bullshizen information from truth. Plus we have so many different psychological types with their attitudes to science... from paranoid mistrust to blind faith. Likewise, governments.

Fortunately, as mentioned previously, we do have choice. Personally, I will have my shot when available for a variety of reasons as mentioned previously. Plus, my confidence is science is somewhat boosted by the effectiveness of my own experiences in PTSD treatments etc.