CV and mad panic behaviour

[LP]

Just a question:

My understanding is that one of the vaccines reduces the symptoms/effects in the person who has received it, but doesn't reduce the transmission towards other people.

Is this correct?  If so, how is it a panacea - it would require the masses to be vaccinated for it to have a lasting effect of reducing the virus? Is this how all vaccines work? If not, please pretend I didn't ask the question!

I have only had the flu shot a couple of times - I've never had the flu.  Partly my constitution, partly luck, partly others having had it?

I'm not sure where I sit on this one - certainly believe in vaccines (polio, measles etc seem to have done pretty well!), certainly not a conspiracy theorist, I trust reputable science, but I don't have the same sense of conviction about this.

Good questions Dodge.

You are right, more people have to be vaccinated when a vaccine doesn't stop transmission, they can work by eliminating serious symptoms so in effect the worst thing you get is a cold. In effect it's stops people needing hospitalisation and massively reduces the total cost of care, and we could go back to normal pre-COVID lifestyles. Not all vaccines work that way, some stop infection, across the board it's about 50/50.

Yes, your flu experience is partly because of vaccination and partly good luck, if you are vaccinated the type of vaccine might mean as discussed above, that you caught the Influenza virus but had no symptoms. For reference, I believe the Influenza vaccine can actually be a mix of vaccinations in one shot against several Influenza strains that can work either way. There is talk that in the future they may even be able to combine Influenza and COVID-19 into a single shot. Ultimately this feeds back into the what Baggers stated as getting the vaccine "For you and me!" In reality very few people get the flu, it can be very bad for those that do get it, it's infection rate is much much lower than COVID-19, globally it looks like COVID-19 is about 3x more infectious that recent strains of Influenza, I say recent because the rate of Influenza infection varies year to year and strains mutate. The numbers are of course averages.

There is a lot more doubt being propagated in social media about the COVID-19 vaccines, but the vast number of people already vaccinated and the very very low side-effect rates mean it's far more beneficial than leaving your fate to chance. Some might faint like the famous nurse video, but that is just coincidence or vasovagal syncope as in the case of the nurse, a fact that very nurse came out and publicly stated after the video surfaced, but that part of the story has been rejected by the social media narcissists, apparently she has gone from anti-vax hero to conspiratorial insider! btw., Syncope and an allergic response are the main reasons for the waiting period after a vaccine shot.

Depending on the area and country where someone lives, a vaccination might cost about 1/1000th the cost of an average hospitalisation. If we took Donald Trump's treatment as the baseline, then vaccines cost 1/12000th the cost of treatment, which is why his claim that he would make that therapy available to all Americans was fully bogus.