02-04-2021, 03:58 AM
(02-04-2021, 03:06 AM)LP link Wrote:Can I ask about the bit in bold, how do you weigh that?
Simple stuff. The initial modelling was done on every covid positive needing ECMO or an ICU admission. That meant that people who didnt get treatment were certainties to die from it. Thats why we locked down to prevent the spread. Then we got case numbers in the thousands, and tens of thousands with the net result of people who were already immuno compromised really the only ones that led to really adverse outcomes (note this is not true of everyone, but we are likely to take the same approach with administering a vaccine for a net break even here). the rest have become sick and are getting on with their lives with some ongoing symptoms that are not life threatening (for now as far as we know). Now I don't want to diminish the risks associated with COVID and i do think we should do what is in our power to prevent these people becoming unwell, but not via injecting everyone with a jab that is both costly and developed so quickly that I am skeptical about it. I am not an anti vaxer, and you can shut down that pete evans crap right now.
Quote:I presume you come at this from an evidence base, can you share it?
If you were able to obtain evidence on demand, what evidence would you accept that the / a vaccine is safe?
My evidence based perspective is largely formed by an opinion shared with me by an Epidemiologist before we were told that a vaccine was available and works. He stated, that Covid being from the SARS family of viruses wont likely get a vaccine because we didnt find a SARS vaccine, and that means that any COVID vaccine is years away from being administered. Within 6 months he is proven incorrect.
Now, call me a cynic, but its my life experience that has taught me to be one, but I think that the global pandemic has caused such a lot of disruption and panic, that the only way for the people who called it one to save face in it, is to come up with a miracle cure that sees it "vanish" as quickly as it came. This refers you back to my previous point about it not being as bad as we thought initially. You combine this with a vaccine hastily produced, and my sentiment is very very unlikely to shift about any vaccine they sell me.
So much so, that I might even resign if faced with the proposition of get it or go being presented to me. I dont say that easily, ive been here for a while, and I like where I am at, but sometimes you have to do whats right, not what is easy.
I get the flu vaccine every year largely because I have to, to do my job. Not because I think it works, but also because there is a report sent around if I dont get one. This time, I dont think I will take such a flippant approach for a vaccine to a virus we only really started learning about a year ago.
"everything you know is wrong"
Paul Hewson
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