Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[Baggers]

This isn't really the place to discuss this, but the Bible is a mass of contradictions, and you can find a quote to justify anything you want - indeed this is what has been happening for centuries. As I've said elsewhere, there's nothing inherently evil about religion, or science, or politics or anything else. Tyranny begins and ends in the heart, and if we keep practicing self exaltation and the externalisation of evil, we will never create a better society for all. What you see in mainstream Christianity today has little to do the original teachings of Jesus and his original followers. The Church married the empire in the 3rd or 4th century, and that was the beginning of the end. Although there are pockets here and there of more progressive thinkers.

Back on topic, one could argue that Chris is a little strident, but I agree 100% with what he says :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7pZnvVzI8

Well, no argument here, Pauly. Thank you for introducing me to Chris Hedges.

I mentioned on this forum quite a while ago that I ran in the 1993 election and not as a member of Labor or Liberal and when I was interviewed by the ABC I commented, way back then, that voting for either of the major parties was making a decision as to whether I'd rather be hit over the head with a baseball bat or cricket bat - most of us have been voting for the lesser of two evils most of our adult lives. I survived a year in politics and pulled the pin myself as the party I'd joined, though well meaning, was filled with academics and intellectuals who actually didn't know how to make things happen in the real world... which was a pity, a huge pity.

Yes, Constantine, the consummate politician, is the real Founder of Christianity.

You're right, Pauly, this is not the place/forum for such chats but we sure are on the same page in many respects, however, I would add to your comment re it all starting and finishing with the heart that whilst humans are trained from birth to be fearful that we will continue to be easy to manipulate. Fear, to my way of thinking, is the opposite of love. As an interesting aside, recent studies of the conservative v progressive people's brains found that the 'fear centre' is far more active in the brain of conservatives!

Are you familiar with Robert Reich's work?