10-09-2020, 05:18 AM
(10-09-2020, 02:30 AM)Mav link Wrote:Hmmm ... I’m guessing the posters who say Pence won are white guys (correct me if I’m wrong). No criticism there: I’m a white guy too. But would women and people of colour agree? It looks like Trump has a massive problem with women and I doubt they would have been impressed by Pence’s dominance displays such as interrupting and blowing past agreed time limits. I doubt black women in particular would have been impressed by Trump telling Fox that Harris came across as a monster.
The problem with saying X won the debate is that the only result that matters is whether the debate changed minds. Treating it as an academic exercise is missing the point. Both made sure they didn’t alienate those who are currently leaning towards voting for their tickets. The problem is that there’s more leaning towards Biden and historically VP debates don’t change momentum very much.
A week before the last election a video of Trump was all over the news saying to pick up women all you had to do was grab them by the pussy. His voters didn't care.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!