(09-24-2020, 03:20 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Particularly when people say "they're inflating the numbers". Cause of death is flaky at the best of times. My dad died of liver failure, and his death certificate says re-activation of Hepatitis C. Neither would have happened if not for his Chemotherapy treatment for a bone marrow transplant because he had Chronic Lymphocytic Leukaemia.Sorry to hear that [member=105]Thryleon[/member], very same thing happened to my uncle. I would not have been any the wiser except his son and daughter-in-law were both hospital nursing staff and gave me the background causes. Sure the liver failure caused his death, by it was a bunch of other failing health issues that impacted the liver in the first place. Of course even though they were not nursing him, they could read the charts and knew exactly what was happening. Which in someways was nice, and much better than burying your head in the sand or being oblivious. They could give the whole family forewarning and most of us got the opportunity to visit while my uncle was still lucid.
I tell you why this sort of honesty is important, apologies for the long read.
When I was in my late teens my father developed bowel cancer, it was already too late to do anything about it when it was detected, he was old school and you didn't go to the doctor until you were too ill to get out of bed. First lesson, if you are unwell for anything more than a passing moment, go to the doctor. When he was in hospital, palliative care, he would have his good and bad days, when he was good they'd send him home for a few days, when he got bad he'd go back into care for more intensive treatment. When in hospital I use to visit him everyday on the way home, I had to drive past his hospital to get home, the only time I wouldn't stop by was when I knew they would be letting him home either that evening or the next morning. Anyway, he'd call telling me when that was the case, which he did one day and as usual I drove right past. That was the last time I talked to him. The doctors and nurses knew he wasn't going home, even though he felt particularly well they could see it in the numbers, they knew something was different. I appreciate it was right of the staff not to bother him with that information, I got the call next morning at work he had passed away, fortunately they had rushed my mother into the hospital to be with him. They did the right thing by him, but I felt I was big enough to handle the news and I wouldn't have driven right past his hospital on the way home the night before, of course I never complained what is the point!
I feel the obfuscation by politicians is somewhat analogous, because COVID related deaths as opposed to dying of COVID is very very real, we are being treated a bit like we cannot deal with the reality. But imaginations can be worse than the reality, even if reality is stranger!
A lot of the protesters are just spoilt brats using their imagination, you can just tell they would be the ones who spit the dummy in my example above, you can just tell they'll be the ones wailing on the TV cameras if a relative dies of COVID! They are the cause not the cure, the real reason why the politicians obfuscate!
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