08-27-2020, 01:06 AM
(08-27-2020, 12:35 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I would have thought that now isn't the time to go doing an investigation into what went wrong.
Identify the shortfalls. Fix them, and then worry about who stuffed up once there is no pandemic to worry about.
This is the sort of thing that fills the public with no confidence in government. On the one hand, we have the vast majority of people being told to stay home, stay safe, dont mingle, etc, and then we have stuff ups like cancelling farmers markets, and retraction within 24 hours, 3-4 weeks during a lockdown, and then we have a royal commission into returned travellers, and aged care, when there are literally people dieing.
The government have a lot to answer for, and one of things they keep getting wrong, is creating policy on the run for things that need to fill the public with confidence that they are able to handle things effectively.
Should our state of emergency be extended? Probably. If not it will be reimposed as quickly as it is able to.
Should our lockdowns continue. No. I think we have enough data to show that the damage to the economy and the general publics health is not that great (although that could change with a higher infection rate) and we should be throwing the same amount of resources into our health care networks and aged care networks to appropriately deal with the threat at hand.
Note, I dont advocate full normality. This stage 4 stuff was an extreme measure required to be enacted because our virus spread was well and truly out of control. Now that we are arresting it, its time to manage this PROPERLY. Spend the resources protecting the vulnerable.
Close that loophole, and actually shut it. Dont just complain publically about our plight.
Wrong in one critical aspect Thry. And I'll try and post the chart (a jpg)! Any hints?
Saying the numbers were 'out of control' is simply emotional rhetoric.
The actual (and modelled) effective reproduction rate (DHHS data) had already peaked and was heading south before even Stage 3 restrictions were reintroduced.
And, in fact, that number was comfortably below the 'magic' 1.0 mark (around 27 July) WELL BEFORE Stage 4 restrictions. Let alone allowing any lag time for 'effect'.
Fact. And essentially confirmed by third party modelling.
So, the only reason for doing it was political.
As to the efficacy of lockdowns and other NPIs - the latest study certainly makes one's eyebrows rise!
https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-a...-suggests/
Finals, then 4 in a row!

