Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

[Lods]

Both were extremely good footballers cruelled by an immature club with a poor culture and dreadful leadership. I stand by what I commented earlier,

Joel Selwoods first game and his team-mates
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/20...70401.html

Bryce Gibbs'  first game and his team-mates
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/20...70401.html

1. The weird thing about that is we won and Geelong lost.
   But by the end of the year they were top and we were second last.
   Players around you in your developing years make a huge difference in terms of support.
   Murphy and Gibbs were behind the eight ball from the moment they started.