Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 11: Carlton vs West Coast

[Baggers]

You either have presence or you dont IMO, its hard to manufacture....young captains like Sticks, Carey had it...Hurn has it but in a quiet way, he isnt a " kent" on the field and is rarely in any skirmishes but when he speaks you can tell the WC players respect him and he is one player if you notice the opposition never mess with physically or mentally, there is just something about him that says presence.
Pendlebury is a fantastic footballer and probably will go down in history as one of Collingwoods greatest but he doesnt have it IMO and one of the reasons Collingwood cant go to the next level is their lack of standout leaders.
Max Gawn....big man but no presence....
Cripps I am undecided on, but Docherty isnt my idea of a captain with presence, I'm not a fan of dual captains, to me it says we dont have one person qualified or with all the characteristics required to do the job on their own.

EB1... such an important post. And right on the money. Leadership presence is a very, very real thing.

When Hodge went to BrisVegas... well, the evidence is there.

I cannot think of a Premiership side that had a 'nice' Skipper. Remember, this is a gladiatorial sport.

Our entire side, for decades, has relied on coaches/runners for direction & leadership... no-one stepped up to be the ruthless on-field leader, except maybe for Juddy, by example.

Crippa is, as a leader, nice... Doc doesn't have a hair out of place, impeccable. Terrific blokes, terrific players.

But who is the leader who reads the game, demands change, is uncompromising in his instructions? Who commands respect simply by his actions/voice/presence? This is a serious question. Hint... it aint Simmo, he was raised on failure but is a great of our club through times of deep failure.

So, who is, or who should be, or who should be recruited, to be a bona fide on-field leader - presence & brains ahead of example, please.