CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

All Im going to add to this debate is the following:

make sure that anything criticising the pandemic, isnt riddled with misinformation, and confirmation bias.

Correlation not causation.

likewise for anything affirming the steps we are taking to prevent things from getting out of hand.

The actions, and the reaction are sometimes hard to quantify in terms of what was the best possible outcome, and often the facts and figures get in the way of the human cost of such decisions.

When push comes to shove, the idea of shutting us down for the health, safety and well being of everyone isnt solely a control measure, it is done in the best interests of everyone.  For the greater good.

Whether or not this action is warranted is actually a seperate argument.  To answer that relies on having key data that we the people are not actually privy to.  Most of the arguments are generally happening at a level of "I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU".

That is already a false premise.  The worlds reaction to this pandemic tells me that no one really knows what we are looking at, and are acting based on potential outcomes, and only post pandemic will those outcomes really be understood.  Anyone asserting otherwise is actually motivated with a pre conceived idea on what the best course of action is, and will selectively choose evidence to confirm that.  Hence why I stated, dont act based on what the information is telling your confirmation bias.

The facts state the following:

1.  we have a virus no one has seen before.
2.  We dont have a good grasp on how it effects people.
3.  Our health systems that are normally geared to trying to help people achieve "normal levels" are continuing to do act as they normally do and are not winning that fight which is a cause for concern on multiple levels.
4.  This is an infectious disease.
5.  It has the capability to be a cause of death where ordinarily people wouldn't die from some of their other co-morbities.
6.  The reaction to the virus falls into an acceptable motivation that is geared towards preventing bad outcomes, rather than enforcing worse outcomes.


Anything else is HYPERBOLE.  No one knows what the cost of not shutting down is, and the cost to treat a patient requiring treatment in a pandemic might actually cost the same as the damage we are doing to the economy.

Did you know, that rooms in 5 star hotels are cheaper than a hospital bed on a per night basis?

When viewing this pandemic through that lense, think REALLY hard about the cost of flooding our hospitals with patients who are not in for one night, but multiple on a ventilator.  The hospitals are not free, and patient treatment is actually very expensive, whether you see a bed or not.