07-03-2020, 01:53 AM
(07-03-2020, 12:01 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Have to disagree with that comment, Pauly.
Injustice perpetrated upon anyone, yellow, brown, red, white, purple... doesn't matter, it's always equally unfair and wrong. To have no interest in whites complaining about an injustice because they're white and they've a history of mistreatment is not reason to treat their hurt with any less compassion than anyone else. Actually sounds like just another form of prejudice to do so. We cannot tar the entire white race with the same brush based on the sins of the past. Important to remember that many great and heroic white peoples have fought for and alongside folks of colour, as there have been many great and heroic folks of colour and who've fought with white folks against a tyranny of injustice.
Not a good idea to be angry with all whites because of groups and individual whites who've perpetrated appalling acts upon coloured/indigenous folks. All races have done both horrible and wonderful things. And all humans -- black, white, chartreuse -- have an issue with power, just look at our history. It's because there's so many of us whities that our misdeeds gain more attention. Plenty of minorities have perpetrated abominations upon each other and whitey.
Attempting to demonise all whites because of the horrors perpetrated by some today and many in years gone by (just another prejudice) serves no useful purpose other than to create more disharmony, blame, retribution and so on. Far better to learn from the mistakes of now and the past and work together to overcome these prejudices for the benefit of all... and in many respects, many of us are now doing just that as have some very impressive folks (of all colours) in our recent and deep past.
Yes, many white folks have misused power to a disgusting and inhuman extent... but for as many of these as you'll easily find many white folks doing the right thing fighting for and with indigenous folks and folks of colour. Abraham Lincoln and his best mate, Frederick Douglass (an African American cat) together drafted anti-slavery legislation and against a racist nation had the legislation passed.
And yes, today, still, work needs be done re racism (and how to handle power) - but progress is being made, just not quick enough. It's more about acknowledging the reality of human imperfection and dealing with it through deep and widespread education, not blaming and shaming.
The racist debate is actually racist.
We perpetuate many of our ills in the name of trying to show equality.
I know of people who were overlooked for a role as a partner of a firm, because they didn't have enough female partners and therefore the quota ratios set were not going to be met. That was discrimination based on gender.
Now whether or not that was an excuse as to why they didn't give him the role or not, it just goes to show, how trying to perpetuate equality works against equality.
Or perhaps they were discriminating against him being Sri Lankan, because they didnt want a black man to get the job? Who knows.
In reality, I like to think that the idea is that people are not overlooked because of what they arent is more about confirmation bias, than actualy inequality but I scratch my head sometimes. I work in IT, and the question asked whenever we hire is are their any female applicants?
Using my education as a case study, in most lectures I went to, females to male ratios were at least 20 to 1, yet most females working in IT are actually promoted faster. That means that not only is the industry biased towards promoting females, they are also hiring them quicker. Thats discrimination. Its ignored, because we have to correct it apparently. Thing is, by being sexist, we are being sexist. That is the actual ill. Not whom we are being sexist against.
We need to drive our motivation by standards, not make reparations for previous ills. The term WASP exists for a reason, and applying that term to a Greek son of a migrant based on his skin colour, is more racist than I will ever be.
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