Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match

[ElwoodBlues1]

We were 1 kick away from a prelim and lost 2 other finals by under 10 points during that time. Also won a final against the tigers.

We've actually made finals 4 times out of the past 11 years believe it or not.

....and this is why people don't take your 'realistic' comments seriously.

Murphy was voted the best player in 2012 by AFL coaches. Nobody else from his draft year has achieved that, or any other significant individual award (Brownlow, AFLPA MVP etc)

So when you make sweeping statements like that, whatever possible good points you might have, just get thrown out the window because you 'overreach' in your criticisms. Hence, pessimistic, not realistic.

I'd have Pendlebury ahead of Murphy.....for consistency, premiership captain, Norm Smith in that premiership, 5 Copelands and still playing at a very high standard. even in the recent state game he was a standout all be it the game was played tamely. West Coast supporters would probably give you a hard argument on Hurn and Kennedy too. Hurn is a real captain along the same lines as Hodge and JK has been the premier forward for many seasons.
Daisy Thomas would also feature given he has a premiership and was deemed best in the comp at one stage...
Murphy has been good but I'm not rating him ahead of the others either as a leader or player...