Carlton vs Brisbane Practice Match

[kruddler]

Sorry Kruddler,  but where have we been on the ladder for the past 10 years?  Please mate, don't be personal.  I'm just being realistic.

We were 1 kick away from a prelim and lost 2 other finals by under 10 points during that time. Also won a final against the tigers.

We've actually made finals 4 times out of the past 11 years believe it or not.

Kreuzer, Murphy and Gibbs were all very ordinary number 1 draft picks.  It could be argued we butchered them all.  Are they crap footballers?  No they are not, but where do they really rank in terms of their real position in the draft from where they should have been taken?  I'd say, Murphy- pick 12-15,  Gibbs, pick 8-14, Kreuzer, Pick 15-20.  None are worthy of number 1.

....and this is why people don't take your 'realistic' comments seriously.

Murphy was voted the best player in 2012 by AFL coaches. Nobody else from his draft year has achieved that, or any other significant individual award (Brownlow, AFLPA MVP etc)

So when you make sweeping statements like that, whatever possible good points you might have, just get thrown out the window because you 'overreach' in your criticisms. Hence, pessimistic, not realistic.