07-01-2019, 03:20 AM
(07-01-2019, 02:46 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Clarkson has been punching things since 1987. And no way are Hawthorn top 4 - they have almost no forward line.
Order vs Chaos boils down to a variety of factors, probably the most important one of which is experience - an element in which we are severely lacking and no coach can teach. Unfortunately, there is only one way to get experience, and that is to get experience. In two years' time, we will have the advantage of a group of early 20s with 50-100 games under their belt and I think structure will be far more apparent then. Clarkson 2013-15 and Malthouse 2010-11 had the advantage of very experienced teams, which almost by definition brings with it an atmosphere of control and structure.
Once Malthouse came to CFC, his style was found wanting (and several of our players started looking for the door). And Clarkson is now finding out the same thing. There is not a coach on the planet who is going to make our list look like a seasoned bunch of professionals overnight. It will take time.
I didn't say the Hawks are top 4 - I said their best is easily top 4 material. I also said they have too many lapses and inconsistencies to actually be a top 4 team.
I don't exactly know why Malthouse failed at Carlton, but I seriously doubt it was because "his style was found wanting."
You can make an argument for different teaching methods. As you infer, Teague is starting off by freeing up the players, and then the style hopefully becomes more disciplined and structured as the players mature and gain experience. Or you can try to teach good habits from the start like Bolton did, which means short term pain but longer term benefits, since you don't have to teach twice or hope for an evolution that may never occur.
One reason why Ratten only won 1 final is because run and stun is not really suited to finals footy. I know he got very close and i know some bad luck was also involved. My concern is that Teague may be Ratten MKII. Given where we've been, folks may well take that, but it's not where we want to be, and it won't save Teague's bacon when the wheels start to wobble, assuming of course he gets appointed.