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Pre-Game Prattle: AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda at Marvel
(05-25-2019, 07:12 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'm more than comfortable with all of that and don't disagree with any of it....
But what I'm seeing in some arguments is a greater emphasis and trust to different aspects.
It's natural to choose aspects that support your point of view.
If you're a fan of Bolton it won't be the coaches' fault it's injuries or the players.
If you're not it's all the fault of the coach.
It's occurring on both sides of the discussion.

Let me give an example

SOS says Liam Stocker was really worth pick 6....that sounds brilliant drafting strategy.... we believe the club.
Chris Judd says ….we never expected to be 1 and 8....That's just spin because the club wouldn't have said from the start we expect to be 1 and 8....we don't believe the club.

It's selective choosing to fit a point of view.
It's the same for some arguing in reverse...ignore the good and concentrate on the negatives.

As Capcom says it could fall either way...I suspect Stocker will be a very good player but if we do finish last and Pick 1 turns out to be a superstar he'll always be the one we gave away.
We'll have to wait and see.
It'll change no doubt but right now, as I write, we've given up Pick 1 for a 12 and 19.

(and that's an example of how you spin things to suit an argument)

The bold bit seems to be the crux of your argument re spin.

There is a logical reason which involves no spin, no lies and no misinformation for that whole scenario to work.

Quote:Chris Judd says...we never expected to be 1-8.
No, we probably didn't expect to be 1-8......but we've had some serious setbacks with Docherty being the obvious one, a couple of close losses that could've gone the other way and with a bit of luck we've easily got 4 wins, even with losing Doc.
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That's just spin because the club wouldn't have said from the start we expect to be 1 and 8
No its not spin. Expectations had to be reevaluated. We didn't EXPECT to be 1 and 8, but for reasons mentioned above, we are.
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we don't believe the club
You said yourself, you believe what you want to believe.


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Re: Pre-Game Prattle: AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda at Marvel - by kruddler - 05-25-2019, 08:28 AM

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