05-25-2019, 06:32 AM
(05-25-2019, 06:02 AM)Lods link Wrote:No what I'm actually getting is a rather confusing picture. It seems the suggestion is that the club are being a bit cagey with the true picture and that they never really expected an improvement. Either they did or they didn't or things have gone off the rails
Which is it? Stocker may have been rated a pick 6 by us. But it seems no other club rated him that high. So he went where general expectations were or perhaps a bit ahead of that. I understand the need to look for justification for a position but don't close your mind to alternative opinions.
You may recall how excited i was when the whole prospect of live trading was being talked about. I had called for as much for a long time, using the NFLs workings to point out the advantages of such a system and how it could benefit us.
Many were scared of the whole concept. Until SOS did THAT trade with Stocker and people started to believe. Now people are scared again after seeing a potential problem with that trade. I'm just pointing out things that many seem to overlook when evaluated such a trade.
Too many folks on here, yourself included, are fixated on what the club expected and what that means for that trade....and as a club.
Firstly, the whole rating of players in the same draft is hard enough. Yarran vs Rich vs Ziebell thread shows how quickly a 'win' can turn into a 'loss' and back again.
Obviously, rating players from different drafts adds a whole other layer of complexity to the already very subjective method of rating players. Not the least of which is the fact that we are getting a player with 1 year of development behind them over whoever we could take next year.
Secondly, the clubs expectations would be reevaluated regularly as well. So whatever our initial expectations were about this season, i'm pretty sure it didn't take into account we'd lose our co-captain and equal best player for the whole season, again. So expectations pre-draft would differ from post draft would differ from day 1 of preseason to the final day of preseason etc etc.
Thirdly, If the club did have poor expectations going into this season, would it be in its best interests to make that public?
If it did, would we have record membership numbers? Probably not.
New sponsorship deals worth mega bucks? Probably not.
Would merchandise sales be down as a result? Yes
Would players be given an excuse for failing? Yes, and thats not ok.
Would attendances be as high? Definitely not.
Would there be increased media scrutiny on us if that was our expectation? Absolutely.
So again....is it in the clubs best interests to make this public? Hell no. Yes, some supporters, like yourself, would appreciate the honesty, but overall, its a very bad strategy.
Finally, is it possible that the club did NOT expect to be this bad? Yes.
Could that because of injuries (Doc etc) yes.
Could that be because of a lack of development in some players? Yes.
Could it be because the coaching group is failing? Yes thats true too.
My mind is open to so many permutations about where we are, where we should be and why we are where we are and where we will be in the future and how all this has happened thus far and who is on first and what is on 2nd.
