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Winning isn't everything
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(05-14-2019, 03:32 AM)Baggers link Wrote:You do realise, don't you, that young lists have won premierships, won loads of games, made finals?

You do realise that the club expects to be winning games, now. So why are you disagreeing with the goals and expectations of the club?

Are you okay with continual loses and willing to find excuses the entire time? Kinda puts you out of step with the club... for starters...

Now that i am on a PC, I will respond with a little more depth to this.

The club is setting internal expectations on winning.  The players now need to snap out of green shoot territory (which was a stance that publically needed to be taken) and into lets win today territory.

The thing is, the progress towards winning is not a one off switch into win mode and you get there automatically.  It is part of the process.

Wins and losses are a result.  They are not the metric.  Metrics occur in games.  How we perform what we are trying to do and how well we do it, and what we can then improve upon to resolve those metrics.  All the wins/loss table shows us is that we have work to do still on the lifecycle of evolution of our footy club regarding how we do things (think reporting).

[Image: demystifying-the-5-phases2.jpg]

In a footy club this is a tricky process to navigate, because it all happens in varying capacities relative to the rest of the competition which is another reason why using wins and losses is a poor metric.  I.e. if you are doing things better than everyone else like Carlton in the 90's that doesn't mean that there is not a better way to do things and arguably would have delivered us more success than we experienced in the 90's. 

https://www.smartsheet.com/blog/demystif...management


Reporting will only be useful to understand the metrics.

I.e.  we might not be tackling much as a metric in some games.

If it were the bulldogs game, the report of win, explains the metric of tackle.  We were in control of the pill for longer periods than the bulldogs were, so we tackled less.  Do we need to improve the performance of our team to fix that metric??  Not when a game is played like that one necessarily. 

If the same was true of the North Melbourne game, it then tells us that we were not doing enough to close down our opposition.


"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-13-2019, 12:06 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-13-2019, 12:44 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-13-2019, 12:49 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-13-2019, 12:56 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by laj - 05-13-2019, 01:01 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 01:12 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-13-2019, 01:15 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-13-2019, 01:41 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by JonHenry - 05-13-2019, 02:07 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 02:13 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-13-2019, 02:27 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-13-2019, 02:36 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by madbluboy - 05-13-2019, 02:42 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-13-2019, 02:45 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-13-2019, 02:48 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by madbluboy - 05-13-2019, 03:02 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by madbluboy - 05-13-2019, 03:03 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-13-2019, 03:22 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Mantis - 05-13-2019, 03:31 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-13-2019, 03:32 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-13-2019, 03:38 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-13-2019, 03:54 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-13-2019, 03:57 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 03:58 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by thefutureisblue - 05-13-2019, 04:00 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-13-2019, 04:07 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-13-2019, 04:09 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-13-2019, 04:10 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by madbluboy - 05-13-2019, 07:02 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 07:17 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-13-2019, 07:20 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 07:25 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-13-2019, 07:29 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-13-2019, 07:32 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Professer E - 05-13-2019, 07:38 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 08:08 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by kruddler - 05-13-2019, 08:41 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Professer E - 05-13-2019, 10:42 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-13-2019, 10:44 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Professer E - 05-13-2019, 11:00 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by kruddler - 05-13-2019, 11:08 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Professer E - 05-13-2019, 11:17 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by spf - 05-13-2019, 04:34 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Tragic - 05-13-2019, 09:20 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by thefutureisblue - 05-14-2019, 02:16 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-14-2019, 02:34 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-14-2019, 03:11 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-14-2019, 03:32 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-14-2019, 03:37 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by jeza - 05-14-2019, 04:23 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by thefutureisblue - 05-14-2019, 06:30 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-14-2019, 08:05 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-14-2019, 08:22 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-14-2019, 10:17 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Tragic - 05-14-2019, 11:38 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-15-2019, 12:02 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-15-2019, 01:08 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Shakin77 - 05-15-2019, 02:01 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-15-2019, 03:17 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 04:12 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-15-2019, 04:25 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 04:42 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-15-2019, 04:52 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 04:58 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-15-2019, 04:58 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-15-2019, 05:04 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-15-2019, 05:07 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 05:15 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by cookie2 - 05-15-2019, 05:25 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 05:28 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 05:29 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by cookie2 - 05-15-2019, 05:31 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by cookie2 - 05-15-2019, 05:32 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-15-2019, 05:33 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 05:44 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by laj - 05-15-2019, 05:44 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-15-2019, 06:16 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by cookie2 - 05-15-2019, 06:25 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-15-2019, 06:29 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-15-2019, 07:09 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by laj - 05-15-2019, 07:22 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-15-2019, 07:54 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 08:25 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-15-2019, 08:29 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-15-2019, 08:33 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by DJC - 05-15-2019, 08:53 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Professer E - 05-15-2019, 08:57 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by townsendcalling - 05-15-2019, 09:03 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-15-2019, 09:06 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-15-2019, 09:37 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by DJC - 05-15-2019, 10:46 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Tragic - 05-15-2019, 01:02 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-15-2019, 11:31 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-15-2019, 11:50 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-15-2019, 11:58 PM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by malo - 05-16-2019, 12:02 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-16-2019, 12:06 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-16-2019, 12:51 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-16-2019, 01:28 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by JonHenry - 05-16-2019, 03:03 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Mantis - 05-16-2019, 03:32 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-16-2019, 04:11 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by deags - 05-16-2019, 04:23 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by flyboy77 - 05-16-2019, 05:34 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by ElwoodBlues1 - 05-16-2019, 07:09 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Baggers - 05-16-2019, 08:05 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by kruddler - 05-16-2019, 08:52 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by cookie2 - 05-16-2019, 09:11 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by laj - 05-16-2019, 09:17 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-16-2019, 09:26 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-16-2019, 09:36 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-16-2019, 09:39 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-16-2019, 09:41 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by PaulP - 05-16-2019, 09:58 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by madbluboy - 05-16-2019, 10:10 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by kruddler - 05-16-2019, 10:10 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Lods - 05-16-2019, 10:12 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-16-2019, 10:37 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by JonHenry - 05-16-2019, 11:13 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-16-2019, 11:37 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by JonHenry - 05-16-2019, 11:59 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by madbluboy - 05-29-2019, 02:45 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by Thryleon - 05-29-2019, 04:17 AM
Re: Winning isn't everything - by LP - 05-29-2019, 04:22 AM

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