10-01-2018, 05:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2018, 10:35 AM by crashlander.)
The Weagles are Premiers for 2018 and things are not looking good for us. 
Lots of rumours and very few of them any good.
Update #5 01/10/2018
Senior List:
Looking forward for the Draft Camp. Lots of useful information on the way.
2018 List: 40 players Present AFL Maximum
Confirmed Delistings:
[1] Aaron Mullett – contract not renewed
[2] Cam O’Shea – contract not renewed.
[3] Matthew Wright - he retired during the week and is heading to Adelaide as an assistant coach.
Confirmed Additions:
Nobody yet.
Alex Fasolo from Collingwood appear to be certainty. Not really what I want, but that deal appears done. He will be a Free Agent, so at least he won't cost us anything.
Mitch McGovern is looking more likely than not, although the probability of getting a decent deal with ADELAIDE looks remote.
Setterfield is still in Limbo, but looking a lot worse. The latest is that Essendon have offered him a deal which is supposedly better than our's. Apparently he agreed to us, but is now backing away from that in favour of his childhood drug cheats. If so, I will be very unimpressed. There is a reason I chose brown for the colour.
Shiel is a low probability event, but other clubs think they have a chance. I'm not sure he will even leave. But he has looked over things at Carlton. Some in the media wish to upgrade their own interest (eg, Tim Watson and the Drug Cheats), but Shiel is keeping his cards close to his chest,
Brodie: that one has gone very quiet. Not sure what is going to happen there.
I am sure I have missed some: everybody seems to be linked to us at the moment, whether we really need them or not.
Potential Delistings, Retirements or Out-trades:
[1] Matthew Kreuzer – No word about how he is going. Apparently Geelong are interested in trading for Kreuzer, but what they have to realistically offer is another question entirely.
[2] Sam Kerridge – Kerridge has not been offered a contract at this time. It has been suggested that the club may rookie him, depending on how the trades go.
[3] Jarrod Garlett – No mention of Garlett in dispatches since he went on for surgery. Not sure what is going to happen here. I think he has a contract, but paying it out is not impossible if he isn't headed in our direction.
[5] Matthew Lobbe – Looking more likely to remain, with the interest in Kreuzer. I find that amazing, but that is another matter.
[6] Nick Graham – Puss has not been offered a contract for 2019 yet, and has been told his fate depends on the trade period. To be honest, I think Puss has the highest probability of being elsewhere in 2019 of all of the potential list changes.
[7] Andrew Phillips – Looking more likely to remain and may end up being our #1 ruckman!
[8] Levi Casboult – Levi’s name has been conspicuous by its absence in trade talks. I think he will stay, but he could be a very interesting trade option.
[9] Jed Lamb – I thought he would be unlikely to be under pressure with the way he finished the season, but his contract talks have also been put off until after the trades. He could be a rookie yet.
[10] Ciaran Byrne: We knew he had gone back to Ireland, but the latest rumours have him not coming back. He wants to play with his brother, apparently, as he did just recently. I am unimpressed, but the probability of overseas players returning home is always high.
[11] Tom Williamson This one is news to me, but apparently Williamson’s injury issues are more serious that expected. I don’t know what to believe, but I don’t like it at all.
At this point we have 6 spots available on both lists, 3 certainties on the main list and 3 rookie picks. There have been talks of putting up to 3 players back to the rookie list. But with Byrne and Williamson now looking feim, there may well be 2 more senior spot available soon. :'( :'( :'(
Potential Additions:
[1] Ben Silvagni – Missed Premiership glory with a broken hand and has dropped much lower in calculations. I think Ben will be our last live pick, but that is much less likely now.
Other names on the trade list include Shiel (GWS), Dunstan (St.K),McGovern (Ad), Setterfield (GWS), Lonie (St.K) and more!
Rookie List:
Rookie players are able to play senior footy pretty much straight away, and conditions continue to change. However, the rookie list will remain in 2019.
Confirmed Departures:
[1] Matt Shaw – not offered a new contract
[2] Jesse Glass-McCasker – not offered a new contract and looking less likely to be offered a rookie spot with 4 senior potentially becoming rookies.
[3] Alex Silvagni – Retired. I haven't heard anything of his intentions for 2019 yet.
Confirmed Additions:
Nobody at this point. But Lamb, Kerridge and Graham are now in the picture.
Possible further Departures:
[1] Kym LeBois – Looking more probable as the trades go on. Possible delisting. To be honest, I am amazed he has survived this far.
Cat B Rookies:
[1] Cillian McDaid
Definitely remaining for 2019.
At this point he is looking likely to be our only Irishman in 2019, which is hugely disappointing. We have had a very poor run with our 'Irish experiments': the only durable one of the lot is Tuohy and he is now at Geelong.
Potential Additions:
[1] Liam Hickmott – looking a bit more likely as he won the B&F for Colts in WA.
[2] Will Hickmott - I am expected Will to be picked up, even with his less than stellar Carnival.
[3] Ethan Penrith –signed with the Northern Blues for 2019, assuming he is not promoted. I expect him to remain with the NB's at this point.
[4] Sam Fisher – I'd like to see Fisher get a go, but for a team on the bottom, we have remarkably few list changes in sight. How we go at getting trades will determine Fisher's fate.
[5] Jesse Palmer – looking unlikely now, with McGovern and Fasolo to compete with.
Conclusion:
The potential of losing Byrne looms huge to me. He is a top liner if he can stay on the field. He also creates a hole in defence for a guy with real pace and athleticism. Similarly with Williamson: if he cannot come up, then our defence looses the pace and athleticism that made it look so flexible.
The more I am hearing about Setterfield, the less I am liking it, or him. I hate the idea of having Essendon grab him, but if he is not the answer we want ...
I would really like some good news for a change.
Lots of rumours and very few of them any good.Update #5 01/10/2018
Senior List:
Looking forward for the Draft Camp. Lots of useful information on the way.
2018 List: 40 players Present AFL Maximum
Confirmed Delistings:
[1] Aaron Mullett – contract not renewed
[2] Cam O’Shea – contract not renewed.
[3] Matthew Wright - he retired during the week and is heading to Adelaide as an assistant coach.
Confirmed Additions:
Nobody yet.
Alex Fasolo from Collingwood appear to be certainty. Not really what I want, but that deal appears done. He will be a Free Agent, so at least he won't cost us anything.
Mitch McGovern is looking more likely than not, although the probability of getting a decent deal with ADELAIDE looks remote.
Setterfield is still in Limbo, but looking a lot worse. The latest is that Essendon have offered him a deal which is supposedly better than our's. Apparently he agreed to us, but is now backing away from that in favour of his childhood drug cheats. If so, I will be very unimpressed. There is a reason I chose brown for the colour.
Shiel is a low probability event, but other clubs think they have a chance. I'm not sure he will even leave. But he has looked over things at Carlton. Some in the media wish to upgrade their own interest (eg, Tim Watson and the Drug Cheats), but Shiel is keeping his cards close to his chest,
Brodie: that one has gone very quiet. Not sure what is going to happen there.
I am sure I have missed some: everybody seems to be linked to us at the moment, whether we really need them or not.
Potential Delistings, Retirements or Out-trades:
[1] Matthew Kreuzer – No word about how he is going. Apparently Geelong are interested in trading for Kreuzer, but what they have to realistically offer is another question entirely.
[2] Sam Kerridge – Kerridge has not been offered a contract at this time. It has been suggested that the club may rookie him, depending on how the trades go.
[3] Jarrod Garlett – No mention of Garlett in dispatches since he went on for surgery. Not sure what is going to happen here. I think he has a contract, but paying it out is not impossible if he isn't headed in our direction.
[5] Matthew Lobbe – Looking more likely to remain, with the interest in Kreuzer. I find that amazing, but that is another matter.
[6] Nick Graham – Puss has not been offered a contract for 2019 yet, and has been told his fate depends on the trade period. To be honest, I think Puss has the highest probability of being elsewhere in 2019 of all of the potential list changes.
[7] Andrew Phillips – Looking more likely to remain and may end up being our #1 ruckman!
[8] Levi Casboult – Levi’s name has been conspicuous by its absence in trade talks. I think he will stay, but he could be a very interesting trade option.
[9] Jed Lamb – I thought he would be unlikely to be under pressure with the way he finished the season, but his contract talks have also been put off until after the trades. He could be a rookie yet.
[10] Ciaran Byrne: We knew he had gone back to Ireland, but the latest rumours have him not coming back. He wants to play with his brother, apparently, as he did just recently. I am unimpressed, but the probability of overseas players returning home is always high.
[11] Tom Williamson This one is news to me, but apparently Williamson’s injury issues are more serious that expected. I don’t know what to believe, but I don’t like it at all.
At this point we have 6 spots available on both lists, 3 certainties on the main list and 3 rookie picks. There have been talks of putting up to 3 players back to the rookie list. But with Byrne and Williamson now looking feim, there may well be 2 more senior spot available soon.
:'( :'( :'(Potential Additions:
[1] Ben Silvagni – Missed Premiership glory with a broken hand and has dropped much lower in calculations. I think Ben will be our last live pick, but that is much less likely now.
Other names on the trade list include Shiel (GWS), Dunstan (St.K),McGovern (Ad), Setterfield (GWS), Lonie (St.K) and more!
Rookie List:
Rookie players are able to play senior footy pretty much straight away, and conditions continue to change. However, the rookie list will remain in 2019.
Confirmed Departures:
[1] Matt Shaw – not offered a new contract
[2] Jesse Glass-McCasker – not offered a new contract and looking less likely to be offered a rookie spot with 4 senior potentially becoming rookies.
[3] Alex Silvagni – Retired. I haven't heard anything of his intentions for 2019 yet.
Confirmed Additions:
Nobody at this point. But Lamb, Kerridge and Graham are now in the picture.
Possible further Departures:
[1] Kym LeBois – Looking more probable as the trades go on. Possible delisting. To be honest, I am amazed he has survived this far.
Cat B Rookies:
[1] Cillian McDaid
Definitely remaining for 2019.
At this point he is looking likely to be our only Irishman in 2019, which is hugely disappointing. We have had a very poor run with our 'Irish experiments': the only durable one of the lot is Tuohy and he is now at Geelong.
Potential Additions:
[1] Liam Hickmott – looking a bit more likely as he won the B&F for Colts in WA.
[2] Will Hickmott - I am expected Will to be picked up, even with his less than stellar Carnival.
[3] Ethan Penrith –signed with the Northern Blues for 2019, assuming he is not promoted. I expect him to remain with the NB's at this point.
[4] Sam Fisher – I'd like to see Fisher get a go, but for a team on the bottom, we have remarkably few list changes in sight. How we go at getting trades will determine Fisher's fate.
[5] Jesse Palmer – looking unlikely now, with McGovern and Fasolo to compete with.
Conclusion:
The potential of losing Byrne looms huge to me. He is a top liner if he can stay on the field. He also creates a hole in defence for a guy with real pace and athleticism. Similarly with Williamson: if he cannot come up, then our defence looses the pace and athleticism that made it look so flexible.
The more I am hearing about Setterfield, the less I am liking it, or him. I hate the idea of having Essendon grab him, but if he is not the answer we want ...
I would really like some good news for a change.
Live Long and Prosper!