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VFLW Rd 5: Carlton vs Darebin Falcons
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(06-08-2018, 04:39 AM)DJC link Wrote:The quote is from an article titled “Think gender comes down to X and Y chromosomes? Think again” written by Peter McNight and published in the Globe and Mail, 4 Jun 2015 (updated 15 May 2018).

Isn't McNight famous for writing an article titled, "There is no such thing as a natural born woman!"

But again, McNight makes use of circumstances when things go genetically wrong to justify his stance, it makes him come across almost as a gender denier. But again his whole stance is built on minority circumstances.

(06-08-2018, 04:39 AM)DJC link Wrote:There are many other scientific articles addressing the myriad conditions that blur our concepts of gender.

Again, when things go wrong for any number of associated reasons will not a suitable standards to use in this case.

(06-08-2018, 04:39 AM)DJC link Wrote:I’ll have a go at answering your questions.

1. I would have to know the basis for Mouncey’s gender re-assignment.  She may well be genetically female.  However, I share your concerns about the advantages her maturing as a male gives her over the majority of VFLW players.  I’m not sure that she is good enough to play AFLW but that’s based on second hand observations.

Mouncey is a former male Olympic / Commonwealth games athlete, an athlete who competed in conditions that required gender clarification. Was it wrong then?

Again don't use the something was maybe wrong argument, it's not relevant.

(06-08-2018, 04:39 AM)DJC link Wrote:2. Go for it!

3. Remember the transgender tennis player?  She was going to ruin women’s tennis but hardly fired a shot.  Apart from size and residual strength acquired as a maturing male, I don’t think that the Mouncey situation is unfair to aspiring female athletes.  Other factors, such as leadership, team membership, ability, determination and mental health should level the playing field.

Not a contact sport and not relevant, it's like arguing against trans-gender ten pin bowling participants.

What hope that little girl if she collides with a Mouncey type during a contact sport?

(06-08-2018, 04:39 AM)DJC link Wrote:4. No.  I don’t believe that blokes will undergo gender reassignment to cash in on women’s footy or any other sports.

Maybe not, but if they were former male athletes and they have re-assigned why not join in? I won't at all be surprised to find some failed NBA athlete who has re-assigned decide that a good living can be made in the AFLW, after all isn't that exactly what Mouncey is, a failed male Olympic /Commonwealth games athlete now re-assigned for whatever reason and joining in the AFLW?

I don't give a stuff about Mouncey's welfare, whether she plays or doesn't, but I do feel sorry for her in the circumstance. My major worry is about the genetically female 54kg athlete who is going to compete against a transitioned athlete with 20 or 30 years of testosterone driven bone and muscle development to build an AFLW career on. What happens after the fact is almost but not totally irrelevant, at least we seem to agree on that!
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Re: VFLW Rd 5: Carlton vs Darebin Falcons - by LP - 06-02-2018, 01:36 AM
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