06-08-2018, 01:48 AM
(06-08-2018, 12:06 AM)LP link Wrote:For not diseased individuals chromosomes are binary as you can get, base 2 with each X or Y!
Are you saying we should write rules that take into account the 0.1% like XYY or XX Male?
I'm not sure the weasel words of opportunistic lawyers or gender rights campaigners make much difference to biology, but at the moment they control and profit from the debate!
No matter what you choose to be labeled, your chromosomes are ultimately the tell!
DJC, if you or your descendants dig up Mouncey's bones in a few thousand years as part of a forensic investigation, you find male features and male chromosomes and identify the remains as most likely male. That is a reality that no legal paragraph or political slogan can change!
Gender is a social construct, sex is binary.
Personally, I agree with Chris Judd, I don't think Hannah should be allowed to play in the AFLW. Whilst her testosterone levels may be adequate according to world sporting bodies, I don't think they have quite figured out yet what those levels should realistically be. I think it hurts the image and integrity of the competition which is still in its infancy. It already annoys me that so much attention is made of this issue when we're trying to get as much positive publicity for the women who have been working forwards this for decades. Hannah needs to check her former white male privilege at the door and realise that a lot of these women have not had the opportunity to compete at the highest level of their chosen sport (as Hannah did pre-trans in Handball), so it's time to put the greater good of the sport ahead of her own wants and desires. Welcome to the sisterhood Hannah, sometimes being a woman kind of sucks balls.

