2018 Rd 7: Pre Game Paranoia: Carlton vs Adelaide

[kruddler]

So after all your debate, it comes down to one game, your ultimate basis of declaring dominance is one game!

Nope.

Your call is just wrong and declaring it wrong doesn't need any explanation because reality is in the stats. For every case you cited there is a clear counterpoint or explanation reveal in hard figures that you cherry-pick select cases from to support your generalised argument.

You have become the Trump of CarltonSC! Throwing sh1t at sh1t and covering it in more crap, until the facts are buried deep in it far from view. You are not even self-consistent in your debate, and you address that fact by declaring others are being inconsistent.

But I'm not distracted by your tactics anymore. I've called you on this bullcrap more than enough, it's clear from all the hard data that Jacobs and Kreuzer are at worst break evens in Carlton and Crows matches but you can't help yourself, it's your way. You made a sweeping general statement and now you'll happily bury the truth to prove yourself "right!"

1. You have provided no stats.
2. I provided the stats which shows one player more dominant than the other.
3. You disagreed with the stats because 'kreuzer was injured' and thats why he 'lost' that game.
4. Kreuzer is injured now, but somehow previous efforts while injured don't foretell what the outcome might be this time he is injured  :-\
5. I 'cherry picked' stats. That is, i showed you EVERY GAME they played against eachother and highlighted the relevent figures for ruckmen (hitouts, possessions, goals) I can show you the rest of the stats for the game if it makes you feel better, but it won't help your argument any.
6. Your 'stats' showed a clear lack of knowledge on the topic as it cited head to head matches totalling 16, when in reality, they are a mere 4. You based your opinion, and whole argument, on a set of stats that were of no relevence in this instance....and refuse to acknowledge this, instead digging yourself into a deeper hole of ignorance.
7. You tried taking the argument in another direction, repeatedly, to distract from the lack of substance in your argument....no relevent stats quoted.
8. I call you out on diversionary tactics and try and get you to stick to the point.....and you reply with personal attacks, bringing up trump, and accusations of diversionary tactics.
9. You suggest there has been no clear dominance. I provide you with brownlow votes for 1 game (25% of their head to head) which shows clear dominance, which you shrug off.
10. You throw out 2 of their contests (50% of head to head) as being irrelevent because Kreuzer was injured.  Leaving 1 other match in which stats were similar - so call it a draw.
11. By your own 'logic' (for lack of a better word), the outcome is 1 win to jacobs, 1 draw and 2 counts that 'dont count because kreuzer was injured.
12. You then say you've called me on this sort of thing before, like that is an achievement. In reality, 'before' you've used the same backward ar$ed logic and diversionary tactics to completely and utterly miss the point like you have in this case. I don't think that suits your argument, in fact i think it shoots a pretty big whole in it and any future arguments you are likely to make if this is the sort of thing you hang your hat on.