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[Thryleon]

My argument was based on your original point that with the loss of Gibbs we should have seen the difficult season coming.

But using the Gibbs, Kennedy, SPS combinations...we didn't know Kennedy would struggle with injury and there was some expectation that SPS would have an improved year and not suffer from second year blues.

So there was reason to be positive about the season.
Of much greater impact was the loss of Docherty ...then Kreuzer and Murphy.

Anyway.... come the second half of the year if we can get a few back, and  some improved form from some of the strugglers, we may have a better idea of where we stand.

Again I argued that we would be doing well not to go backwards after trading Gibbs.

I'm sorry to say we haven't done well enough to not go backwards.  Docherty or no Docherty.