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Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain
(05-31-2015, 08:32 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Hey BN, I tried to show you respect but this post is littered with insults and written/edited after Crashlander said no more. You realise that's a sure sign of someone losing the debate? Indigenous dance in Indigenous round, only an idiot would suggest it's the wrong time and place. Wink

Wrong Carrots, I know that the time shown of my last edit shows it was edited after Crash posted, however as you can see, the actual post appeared before he posted. My edit was only about correcting spelling mistakes.

Once again, for reasons that have become obvious to me, and yes, this will probably be seen by you as an insult,  is that there is a light on but no one is home. You make up your mind on an issue, and no matter how logical anyone else's point may be, you just totally lack the comprehension to understand it, let alone accept it.

Once again you say "Indigenous dance in Indigenous round, only an idiot would suggest it's the wrong time and place."

I understand that I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion with someone bereft of reason, however, I will give it one more shot.

Unless you are a complete racist, no one could possibly have a problem with AG expressing his Aboriginal heritage by doing his "war dance".

The fact that you are unable to comprehend that the time that he did it, after kicking a goal half way through the second quarter, and the place that he did it, in front of the Carlton supporters who, by his own words were totally respectful of him up to that point in time, says to me, that you have no comprehension of the meaning of the word, tact. And, that you have no comprehension of the meaning of the word respect for other peoples feelings and views.

You see Carrots, we all have our views on life. And we all have different views. We are so fortunate to be living in a Democracy that allows us, provided we do not incite people to violence or commit terrorist acts, to express those views freely. 

However, with freedom comes great responsibility, and we all need to be considerate of other peoples feelings when expressing those views.  You may say, that I haven't been considerate of your feelings when expressing mine, and perhaps you are correct, so for that I apologise.

Adam Goodes used the freedom that is available to him to express himself on a day, and in a round of football which celebrates our original Indigenous Australians.

However, he did what I and many people are guilty of doing, and, hopefully, will not do again. He did not consider the feelings of those before whom he was performing his war dance.

I reckon that if the announcer at the ground would have said that when the Swans run out on the ground, Adam and his co Indigenous players will be performing an Aboriginal war dance similar to a Haka to celebrate Indigenous round, and they will perform this in front of the Swans cheer squad, followed by a performance in front of the Carlton cheer squad, as I said, unless you were a died in the wool racist, no one could possibly have objected.

Furthermore, I reckon it would have been great to see them do it in front of the Carlton players, and then, if the Carlton players in Yarran and Walker knew how to do it, they could have returned the compliment.

Now, If, after all that the Carlton cheer squad would have booed Goodes and his fellow Indegenous team mates, I would have lead the charge to condemn them.

But Goodes allowed his ego to take the place of reason.

And the result has been the discussion that has taken up pages in our newspapers and TV programs and has polarized the community.

Goodes had a perfect opportunity to make a statement about his and all Indigenous players heritage, which would have left a magnificent impression on us all, and who knows, perhaps changed the view of some of our more bigoted Australians.

As I said, CarrotTs, time and place. Only an idiot wouldn't understand what that means. Wink
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Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - by Lods - 05-29-2015, 01:02 PM
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - by Lods - 05-31-2015, 11:19 PM
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - by bignic - 06-01-2015, 07:16 AM
Re: Round 9: Carlton vs. Sydney Post Game Pain - by Lods - 06-02-2015, 02:13 AM

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