Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

[Thryleon]

They finished ahead of 15 other teams at the end of the H/A season and ahead of 17 others at the end of the finals series, and you can't get more ahead than that IMO.

If that's how you define ""not that good" relative to the rest of the competition", then I seriously look forward to the day when we achieve a similar status.

I think you are simply picking on terminology.

When they play footy they don't impress me, they are blue collar and they are not that good.

Last year, they found a way to keep winning when I thought they wouldn't (at the pointy end of the season).

I still don't think they are top 4 material (they did sneak in on the back of a couple of weird results) and then won the first game which I thought they wouldn't because I didnt think they were that good.

Make sense??

I still think that they will possibly go back to back, but they could easily slip and miss finals altogether.

The thing is, I think Richmond's biggest issue has been themselves.  They were mentally fragile and last year they found a way to rise above it.