What time is it?

[PaulP]

Probably because they aren't that good.

But, due to everyone else being a bit Ho hum, they could even go back to back.

Fwiw a couple of years back, cotchin was in Murphy Territory of being the leagues worst captain.

Things can and do change quickly.  A couple of injuries and the Tigers would fall apart rapidly.  Not convinced by them at all.

They aren't like hawthorn or Geelong when they were up.  These two sides oozed class and talent and when they played looked really good.

Teams that aren't that good don't win flags - those teams usually finish bottom 4. Whether they're good enough for a dynasty is a separate issue. They are a textbook example of a champion team. Not dissimilar to the early 2000's Collingwood teams. Lots of B graders, but very disciplined, very hard working, and very accountable.