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It doesnt matter how different the situations are.

You stated you don't like hypotheticals, and I find it amusing that you believe that in this case you can hypothesize differently and dismiss all situations for all parties.

We could just as easily have gone backwards in 2013 and 14 under Ratten as we could have propelled into top 4.

The point is, we can't know.

Id argue we may have ended up in a very similar position, but again we cannot know for sure.

Huh? Do you deliberately go off on different tangents in an attempt to confuse, or are you confused?

You are comparing the Ratten and Malthouse situations when they are poles apart. Look at the wins and losses. I was not hypothesizing on which way the two situations could go, I was saying the two simply don't compare.