(09-29-2017, 07:37 AM)kruddler link Wrote:See if i was sitting on the fence, and one side of the debate was trotting out BS like that, then it would make me vote against that and vote for the opposition.
Yes, people will vote no for whatever reason they want. I guess my point is, should this plebiscite end up being 50-50 and politicians choose to stick with no, its because of all the lies being told that have swayed people.
I just don't like ill informed people making judgements on peoples lives that will have no effect on themselves whatsoever.
Whilst I admire your passion, I don't know that I agree with it all.
I decided not to comment on the poster, despite the fact I feel it is typically persuasively leading, but not close to the worst I have seen from either side of the campaign.
For example, I think it is as much as anything reminding people that if they consider that picture to be the nucleus of a family vote no.
Now 50% of marriage ends in divorce, many many single parents are raising kids and it doesn't represent actual society. Yet it does represent still what a number of people believe a family should be and this is using a picture to remind them. How many people are actually saying "What... gay people will be able to have babies, I better vote"
But, yes it does at least suggest that SSM = SS parents, which of course is already a reality.
I highlighted two parts above.
The 1st is that the reason people will vote no is because of lies. Which by extension suggests that the only true conclusion anyone could come to is that they must vote "YES". That if they were not deceived they would all vote yes. Whether that is your intention or not, that is as equally deceptive as that poster.
The 2nd part I highlighted is a reality of life. What percentage of people are actually in a position to determine how this will affect society with any degree of certainty?
Almost every person who is commenting on this subject is ignorant, only the degree of ignorance changes.
I agree though in the 2nd part that people uninformed shouldn't be making this decision, but that goes both ways. In fact whichever side gets more of the vote will in fact have the higher number of ill-informed people.
And that is why the government should have made this decision, or commissioned a study and based decisions on that information.
The problem with the study is that it can be heavily bias one way or the other.
For the nth amount of time I agree with Lods.
This is an absolute foregone conclusion and should just be passed through parliament
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Play the most anti-social football in the AFL
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Play the most anti-social football in the AFL

