Bryce Gibbs & Marc Murphy

[Thryleon]

Bolton needs to start working on his Plan Bs and Cs.

He has been caught out many a time with no second option....

Its a tough gig.  Players will learn things faster by repeating the same process, but when teams start nullifying it, is it because we are not executing things as well as we could be??  If we changed things would we hinder the learning process accordingly??  Is the goal not to end up with a team more like 1995's where Parkin empowered our team to kick on and win a flag with minimal coaching??

I like his teaching mantra but not convinced, far from it, he is the 'Messiah'!

  There are no real messiah's.  I think we need to appreciate that Bolton and his team have started a journey (to coin a phrase).  They are looking at improving, process, procedure and people where possible, and putting systems in place to result in recognisable growth and achievement in our footy club.  People are automatically translating that into Premierships, but the reality of that, is that they are bloody hard to win, and require a lot of luck and considerable work to get into a position to achieve it, and measuring people by their ability to achieve that success is increasingly looking like fairly flaky criteria.  All we can do is focus on what work is being done, and whether or not we could be doing things better, and putting the systems in place to do as best we can, so that we can look at our work and see what it has yielded as a result.  Hopefully culminating in success.

Again on Saturday, we had too many kids out there. Smedts and Palmer should have played....I think Palmer will retire year's end.

Agree with this, there might be a reason for it, but I can't see it straight away.

And I reiterate Fisher will become a better player long term if he plays in the 2s.....for now.

This I can't be sure of.  The reserves have been pretty poor for 6 weeks now, and like Mckay there might be more gain in him to keep playing him at senior level, particularly if we are rewarding effort.

What I don't quite get is why Nick Graham isn't a walk up start given our current midfield woes, but there might be different thinking in regards to that than a couple of first year recruits.