Goaltracker

[jeza]

The purpose of the thread was really no more than to track the progress to beat the 224 team total goals and Wright's individual total of 22 last year.

But to consider that after 10 rounds of football there is only 2 points between our 2016 and 2017 totals is pretty fascinating.

The perception that our defence is vastly improved yet we've had more points kicked against us this year is also a strange result.

Yep... different opposition, different weather conditions, a difference in play across the league, a whole heap of factors impact... so drawing conclusions musty be taken with a bit of care.
I still find the results after 10 rounds interesting.

I agree. It puts into perspective how we're travelling.

I still think the pressure on the midfield and our ability to cut through the opposition midfield pressure is more important than who we have standing at either end.

[kruddler]

But to consider that after 10 rounds of football there is only 2 points between our 2016 and 2017 totals is pretty fascinating.

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I still find the results after 10 rounds interesting.

Fascinating and interesting?

Not much going on in Dapto Lods??

To me it makes perfect sense. It's what we had last year, so we'll do similar.

I actually think we should be further ahead due simply to a comparitive lack of injuries with respect to last year.

[Lods]

Fascinating and interesting?

Not much going on in Dapto Lods??

To me it makes perfect sense. It's what we had last year, so we'll do similar.

I actually think we should be further ahead due simply to a comparitive lack of injuries with respect to last year.

2 points difference in one game is close
2 points difference in 10 rounds is....

[DJC]

The purpose of the thread was really no more than to track the progress to beat the 224 team total goals and Wright's individual total of 22 last year.

But to consider that after 10 rounds of football there is only 2 points between our 2016 and 2017 totals is pretty fascinating.

The perception that our defence is vastly improved yet we've had more points kicked against us this year is also a strange result.

Yep... different opposition, different weather conditions, a difference in play across the league, a whole heap of factors impact... so drawing conclusions musty be taken with a bit of care.
I still find the results after 10 rounds interesting.

Yes Lods, very interesting results for students of the game 

I expect Bolton to put more emphasis on scoring in the second half of the season.  McKay and Kerr will probably debut and it wouldn't surprise me if LeBois gets a chance too.

[sydneybluesfan]

2 points difference in one game is close
2 points difference in 10 rounds is....

It is even curiouser when you consider in 2015 after R10 we had scored 737 pts. So there is a 9 point spread across the last 3 years, or a 1% differential. In 2015 we won 1 game in the first 10 rounds, 5 last year with 730 points, and 3 games with 728 pts this year.

The numbers don't lie - they are amazingly consistent over the last 54 games. We haven't improved scoring at all, and as a result we are still struggling to win 1 in 4 games. In BB's first 32 games our average hasn't moved at all [from the prior year] or gotten any better, so thinking that somehow he will flick a switch in the next 12 games and improve the scoring significantly is wishful and optimistic thinking. All we can hope for mid season is that he keeps changing things up and giving opportunities to different guys to see if they can add something to the set up.

The argument about whether it is the midfield or the forwards that make difference is a moot point. You clearly need both - Adelaide have the highest number of talented and experienced goal kickers, and despite having only a 'developing' midfield [remember they wanted Gibbs] they are outscoring other teams ATM by an amazing rate. Our best years have always been when we had good to great forwards and a strong spread through the midfield.

Right now we have 1 solid citizen [Wright] & 1 inconsistent, dumb and erratic back up ruckman [Cas] as the cornerstones of our forward line. Add to that a bunch of 1st/2nd year draftees. The more you think about it the more frustrated you get that we are in such a mess, and a long way from getting it solved.

[jeza]

Solving it takes 50+ games experience for Curnow, SOSOS, McKay, Weit, Lebois, etc.

What us your solution? Recruit an experienced player I guess? If so which one?

[Thryleon]

Ill try this again, and make the arguement even easier this time.

Last year, we had a tall forward kick 17 goals for the season, and he got delisted and retired from AFL (Andreijs Everitt).

We are doing well to be performing at the same output considering that fact alone.

I will state with confidence that scoring goals is down across the competition, irrsepective of teams at the top end kicking slightly more, as the bottom teams are conceding less on average than they did last season.

Finally, we also have another factor.  The players are more used to the decrease in rotation and are starting to combat this fact in different ways.

[sydneybluesfan]

Ill try this again, and make the arguement even easier this time.

Last year, we had a tall forward kick 17 goals for the season, and he got delisted and retired from AFL (Andreijs Everitt).

We are doing well to be performing at the same output considering that fact alone.

I will state with confidence that scoring goals is down across the competition, irrsepective of teams at the top end kicking slightly more, as the bottom teams are conceding less on average than they did last season.

Finally, we also have another factor.  The players are more used to the decrease in rotation and are starting to combat this fact in different ways.

I'm trying to understand where the 'confidence' comes from that is the basis of your argument, because the stats I am looking at tell a different story. What numbers are you looking at??

Rd10 2017 across all teams the average score for is 92.3, Rd10 2016 across all teams the average score was 92.2. So scoring rates across the comp are identical to same time last year. By the end of 2016 the average score had dropped to 89, so you could argue that scoring rates this year are actually up versus FY last year, but it's a moot point.

Your point about AE is exactly right - if you lose a player who consistently kicks 18 goals and don't replace him with another player of similar or better output, you will go backwards. We didn't recruit anyone who is looking like doing that number, but others have improved slightly [Cas / SOJ] so we stay square. But given we were 3rd last in scoring last year, my contention is that 'staying square' is a really bad outcome. And as has been shown, because the bottom teams have improved their scoring versus last year, we are actually now ranked dead last in scoring.

I don't really follow how the rotations effect this?? The objective of reducing rotations by the AFL is to reduce congestion, which may [or may not] increase scoring because the ball is 'in play' more often. The stats shown above would say that there has been no impact on actual scoring rates thus far.

[DJC]

A huge factor in our lack of scoring this season and last is Bolton's focus on defence.

I expect him to let the boys of the leash in the second half of the season and we should hit the scoreboard more often. 

[cookie2]

A huge factor in our lack of scoring this season and last is Bolton's focus on defence.

I expect him to let the boys of the leash in the second half of the season and we should hit the scoreboard more often.

Definitely I think there could be some truth in this. BB is trying to win imo but not at the expense of ending up with a blowout against us which can be demoralising. Be interesting to see how we go for the second part of the year but I think the emphasis may still lean more towards trying to establish a defence that can control games.