2017 Rd 9: Post Game Patter: Carlton vs Fremantle

[flyboy77]

Fly, you've summed up Gibbs to a tee.

Gibbs should be in our best 3 or 4 every week. He should be influencing matches in the vein of a Selwood or a Hodge of yesteryear (i don't mean the rough stuff)

If he was doing that we'd be in the 8 I dare say, or close to....

I think he's been in the top 6 maybe once or twice all year. Do the deal with the Crows and get a couple of young blokes in who give a f..... Bryce doesn't, arguably never has....

[Thryleon]

It cracks me up a bit to read some of the reactions.

To hear the slow play hurt us, when it effectively was shelved after the first quarter for a more run and gun style because Freo  negated the short kick by manning up and the disposal efficiency dropped off.

The other thing that really hurt was losing Rowe.  Killed our structure.  Docherty started playing his role in the aerial contests, meaning we had one less competent rebounder once the ball hit the deck bringing the game back to Freo.

Losing Thomas workrate cannot be underestimated either as he is a cool head under pressure when others tend to go missing i.e. his checkside kick goal in the first quarter.

We are still a young developing output, that relies heavily on older bodies and heads to compete, and the youngsters do well when there is less pressure on them to perform.  It was a dirty day, but its no insult to get beaten by a mature side, on their own paddock, whom the umpires gave a bit of an armchair ride from quarter time to three quarter time. 

Gibbs, Murphy, Simpson, Docherty and Kreuzer are drawing a lot of criticism, but they were some of our better players.  Ed Curnow's workrate was massive. 

If we had regained our composure and played that keeping off style a bit more we would have absolutely won.  I think our changing structure meant we had to change tact to something less suitable to our teams current skillset and that was ultimately the difference between winning and losing besides 5 marks inside 50 to the umpires.

[blue4life]

Gibbs should be in our best 3 or 4 every week.

He usually is, and was again yesterday.

He should be influencing matches in the vein of a Selwood or a Hodge of yesteryear (i don't mean the rough stuff)

He's not as good as Hodge or Sellwood, it makes no difference that he was pick one.
He's a very good footballer but he's not in the elite bracket.

[pew2]

Time to give plowman reality check and should be dropped and 2 can we change our game plan Bolton this slow ,long kicking into our fwd lins is so predictable to the oppostion.

[LP]

He definitely looks the part physically and has some dash. Needs to be given more games....haven't seen the stats but did a lot more than SPS you'd think.....

Just goes to show how wrong you can be! ;D

[tt]Sam Petrevski-Seton 5 3 8 3 0 10 0 1 0 0 0 67
    David Cuningham 6 7 13 1 0 5 2 2 0 0 0 51[/tt]

Might have the size and shape, but played more like a real Lucas!

I don't want anymore Lucas types, ever!

[cimm1979]

Just goes to show how wrong you can be! ;D

[tt]Sam Petrevski-Seton 5 3 8 3 0 10 0 1 0 0 0 67
    David Cuningham 6 7 13 1 0 5 2 2 0 0 0 51[/tt]

Might have the size and shape, but played more like a real Lucas!

I don't want anymore Lucas types, ever!

Are you suggesting Cuningham is a Lucas type?

You must be watching a different sport.

[flyboy77]

He usually is, and was again yesterday.

He's not as good as Hodge or Sellwood, it makes no difference that he was pick one.
He's a very good footballer but he's not in the elite bracket.

Well the Jim Park voting thus far in 2017 would counter your pitch rather decisively I'd say.....don't judge him by numbers just him by whether he influences a game. Most days he does not.

He could be every bit as god as Selwood or Hodge (of old) if he put in harder....

[ElwoodBlues1]

Well the Jim Park voting thus far in 2017 would counter your pitch rather decisively I'd say.....don't judge him by numbers just him by whether he influences a game. Most days he does not.

He could be every bit as god as Selwood or Hodge (of old) if he put in harder....

I'm with you on Gibbs....lazy disposal and a lot of his possies are wasted and do no damage, our other players give him the footy because he is meant to have elite disposal but he is too inconsistent with his kicking....felt sorry for Casboult with balls landing at his feet or weighted wrongly so he was out of position all the time...

[Debster]

Our spoiling efforts and smothering attempts were pathetic. Plowman the chief culprit. He and others barely made contact with the ball in pack situations, a cardinal sin which left us exposed on many occasions.

Freo had too many nippy forwards who left us flat footed. Too many Blues defenders flying in the same pack played into Freo's rovers hands. It wasn't smart by us.

One can only hope Sheahan or Byrne can inject some pace out of the backline. Could Cunningham or Pickett play that role ?

[blue4life]

Well the Jim Park voting thus far in 2017 would counter your pitch rather decisively I'd say.....don't judge him by numbers just him by whether he influences a game. Most days he does not.

He could be every bit as god as Selwood or Hodge (of old) if he put in harder....

There's a bias against Gibbs among Carlton supporters because he was taken at pick one and it was assumed that he would be an elite player.
It didn't work out that way and there's a general sense of disappointment, Watts, Fraser and others have suffered the same fate at the hands of the supporters of their clubs. 
He puts in as hard as anyone else in my opinion, but he'll never be a Sellwood or Hodge.