2017 Rd 9; Pre Game Preparations: Carlton vs Fremantle

[townsendcalling]

Are we on at 4:40 Melbourne time today, or 2:40??

[PaulP]

Are we on at 4:40 Melbourne time today, or 2:40??

4.40 Melbourne time.

[LP]

I just don't get why week after week the odds are so poor for a Carlton victory, it's like the bookmakers and media have ignored recent form and are sticking to the pre-season predictions.

[Gointocarlton]

WOw! Big call likening Cuningham to an early Dangerfield. Hope you're right but I've seen precious little from him to suggest he's a future Dangerfield. Danger has some mongrel about him and has always had an obsessive love of the contest... Cuningham seems rather timid when it comes to putting his body on the line, and that's not to mention his terrible inconsistency. When things go right for him, he can ran and carry very, very nicely but it's so infrequent. As I say, I hope I'm very wrong and have to eat loads of humble pie.

Dangerfield is all about me me me. Individual awards and accolades are his thing (B&Fs, Brownlows, Goal of the year etc). Not a team player and Geelong are so reliant on him (and let him have his way), they will probably never win a flag whilst he is there. I have few mates in Geelong, one is right into the Cats and reasonably well connected down at the yacht club, he tells me there are quite a few hard nosed, influential  supporters that are less than impressed with young Patrick. Thinks his poo doesn't stink and don't like the way he plays and his selfish attitude on the field. But as they say, its not what supporters think, if his team mates and coaches are happy with him, that's all that matters.
In any case, good luck to young Cunners, make the most of the opportunity and may this be one of many senior games for the CFC.

[cookie2]

WOw! Big call likening Cuningham to an early Dangerfield. Hope you're right but I've seen precious little from him to suggest he's a future Dangerfield. Danger has some mongrel about him and has always had an obsessive love of the contest... Cuningham seems rather timid when it comes to putting his body on the line, and that's not to mention his terrible inconsistency. When things go right for him, he can ran and carry very, very nicely but it's so infrequent. As I say, I hope I'm very wrong and have to eat loads of humble pie.

Yep, I have not seen a lot of Cunningham but he doesn't seem to have a great presence for much of the time - fades into the background a lot. Having said that he might eventually have a "Road to Damascus" moment! After all, Jones seems to have had his so why not Cunners?

[PaulP]

Dangerfield is all about me me me. Individual awards and accolades are his thing (B&Fs, Brownlows, Goal of the year etc). Not a team player and Geelong are so reliant on him (and let him have his way), they will probably never win a flag whilst he is there. I have few mates in Geelong, one is right into the Cats and reasonably well connected down at the yacht club, he tells me there are quite a few hard nosed, influential  supporters that are less than impressed with young Patrick. Thinks his poo doesn't stink and don't like the way he plays and his selfish attitude on the field. But as they say, its not what supporters think, if his team mates and coaches are happy with him, that's all that matters.
In any case, good luck to young Cunners, make the most of the opportunity and may this be one of many senior games for the CFC.

I think sometimes, those elite, highly paid players are in a no win situation. If they sit back and don't do much, because they're trying to get other players involved and to contribute more, then they get accused of not earning their money, only chasing the big bucks etc. If they try to take the game on, demanding the footy, showing leadership, and setting the scene for their team mates to hopefully follow, then they're accused of being ball hogs, selfish, not being team orientated etc.

It's not Danger's fault he's surrounded by mediocrity. I reckon without him, Geelong would struggle to make the 8.

EDIT : actually, they probably would make the 8 without him, but not top 4.

[Baggers]

I just don't get why week after week the odds are so poor for a Carlton victory, it's like the bookmakers and media have ignored recent form and are sticking to the pre-season predictions.

Suspect it has a lot to do with our inability to score. Even when we lose we tend to hold opponents to modest scores... BrisVegas, Dawks and us share awful %. Maybe today we can turn it around with many inside 50s and a big score, we'll need it to beat the D1ckers.

[LoveNavy]

Cunningham will hopefully bring more run and zip than White.
Hill speed brothers are in. The rain may slow the ground up a bit.
Bring the intensity from the first bounce and keep the crowd under control Blues.

All the best to Fisher and Samo playing their first home state game. Hope your family get around you and you play a crackerjack game.

Go Blues

[PaulP]

Cunningham will hopefully bring more run and zip than White.
Hill speed brothers are in. The rain may slow the ground up a bit.
Bring the intensity from the first bounce and keep the crowd under control Blues.

All the best to Fisher and Samo playing their first home state game. Hope your family get around you and you play a crackerjack game.

Go Blues

Agree.

[sandsmere]

Agree.

Cunningham was weak today. White is way ahead of him at the moment.

Cunners has showed enough to get another 1 year contract though.