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(05-19-2015, 09:38 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:And that's what I've been trying to say for the last few weeks.
Correct me if I am wrong (and I know you will) but I thought one of you said previously a rebuild involved playing the kids and sacrificing wins for the now. I'm confused.
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(05-19-2015, 10:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Correct me if I am wrong (and I know you will) but I thought one of you said previously a rebuild involved playing the kids and sacrificing wins for the now. I'm confused.
Play the kids at the expense of a few wins, nothing was said about deliberately losing by me, that was the argument against me. My point was you can play the younger kids and still try and win.
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(05-19-2015, 10:35 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Play the kids at the expense of a few wins, nothing was said about deliberately losing by me, that was the argument against me. My point was you can play the younger kids and still try and win.
Ok mate, fair enough.
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(05-19-2015, 09:33 AM)Baggers link Wrote:The two things need not be mutually exclusive. No need for either / or thinking here.
We can 'coach to win' AND 'play for the future'. And this is the balancing act that is in front of our club.
I agree. You can do both as some of the senior players are not pulling their weight. What worth is there playing senior guys that are not up to the challenge. Would it really hurt to have a few senior guys getting a couple of games in the seconds to boost their own confidence? I'm not talking about 10 of them, but maybe 2 or 3. Balance is probably the hardest thing to get right.
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I'm with Viv on this and have agreed with this line of thinking in other threads too.
I'll just add this.
You can actually hurt your future by playing the kids.
A lot has been said about kreuzers body breaking down constantly and part of the blame for that is the amount of games we expected him to play as soon as we drafted him.
Then we relied on him more so we forced him to bulk up in an off-season. The extra weight made him breakdown again....and again.
There is a fine line when you 'play the kids'. Play them too much and they get too fatigued. Get too fatigued and your risk of injury skyrockets.
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I agree with the Kreuzer theory. He had to carry a load his body wasn't ready for. How can a coach expect a baby to be a key ruck for almost every game and still not suffer. He has just a kid, and now he is a broken adult. Bring players in for 2 to 4 games and then give them a few weeks off. Surely by the time they have had a dozen games in their first season, they know what they need to work on to improve. They have had exposure and know what to expect in terms of the speed of the game at AFL level. You can't play every kid in every game. Balance.
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(05-19-2015, 11:15 AM)Mantis link Wrote:I agree with the Kreuzer theory. He had to carry a load his body wasn't ready for. How can a coach expect a baby to be a key ruck for almost every game and still not suffer. He has just a kid, and now he is a broken adult. Bring players in for 2 to 4 games and then give them a few weeks off. Surely by the time they have had a dozen games in their first season, they know what they need to work on to improve. They have had exposure and know what to expect in terms of the speed of the game at AFL level. You can't play every kid in every game. Balance.
And this is where Hawthorn (sorry Carrots) get it absolutely spot on IMO. I heard Bolton recently say in an interview that they put heavy focus on ensuring that recruits do there time in the 2's and are not picked until they are 100% ready. When they are selected in the ones, they fit in and perform.There's that effin D word again!
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Play the kids and look for the No 1 pick........
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(05-19-2015, 10:35 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Play the kids at the expense of a few wins, nothing was said about deliberately losing by me, that was the argument against me. My point was you can play the younger kids and still try and win.
You never play anyone at the expense of a few wins. Never.
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(05-19-2015, 11:36 AM)Baggers link Wrote:You never play anyone at the expense of a few wins. Never.
Well it's worked before, and it will work again. So I'd say you're wrong!
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