Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

[ElwoodBlues1]

Kohli is the Sean Denham of international cricket.

Kholii is a star and is one of the best batsman in the world...Denham was a failed rover from Geelong who eked out a career at Essendon following great players around the park notably one G. Williams.
Test Cricket will survive through players like Kholi, sure we all want to slap him for being an obnoxious brat but hey thats how some of our blokes have played the game and prospered ie Dave Warner...Kholi is unusual in that he plays cricket hard and un Indian like with plenty of cheek and chat, makes for a great contest and I enjoy his contribution to the game.

[DJC]

Kholii is a star and is one of the best batsman in the world...Denham was a failed rover from Geelong who eked out a career at Essendon following great players around the park notably one G. Williams.
Test Cricket will survive through players like Kholi, sure we all want to slap him for being an obnoxious brat but hey thats how some of our blokes have played the game and prospered ie Dave Warner...Kholi is unusual in that he plays cricket hard and un Indian like with plenty of cheek and chat, makes for a great contest and I enjoy his contribution to the game.

Yes, I tend to agree.  Kohli's behaviour, while over the top, is no different to what we see from the Aussie test team ... and Smith was cheating!

[LordLucifer]

We have too many batsmen who are flat-track bullies at home but get found out in places like the sub-continent where the ball turns on a different paced pitch.

[LordLucifer]

Finally, I had an interesting discussion at the pub last night. A fellow cricket enthusiast and long time player suggested the heavy bats Warner, Marsh, Wade, etc., use do not favor scoring in India. He thinks you need light weight bats that allow for very late and significant adjustments(Low interia, easy to move), lots of 1s and 2s with not so many boundaries.

I'm in agreeance with that theory.

[LP]

Kohli is the Sean Denham of international cricket.

I'd forgotten that name, or at least blotted it out of my memory.

But as much as Kohli irritates me he's a first class sportsmen, not a dead-set hack like Denham using gutter tactics to keep up with the big boys.

I'll probably have nightmares now you've refreshed my memory!

[Bear]

Re: bats... not sure they are actually "heavy"... even though they are massive. I'd doubt the Indians use "lighter" bats.

And players on both sides have struggled to make runs.

[DJC]

Re: bats... not sure they are actually "heavy"... even though they are massive. I'd doubt the Indians use "lighter" bats.

And players on both sides have struggled to make runs.

As I understand it, the dimensions of bats are controlled but weight isn't.  However, the difference between the lightest and heaviest bats is only around 200gm (say 15% of the heavier bats) and I think that the effect of that difference would be negligible for Test cricketers.

It would be interesting to look at the results of any biometric studies of cricket bat weight.

[Professer E]

I purchased bats for both my kids this year and the technology in bats is amazing.  They are all relatively light and the "swing weight" (i.e. balance) is amazing, if you time it the ball just zings away.

I heard that Warner has custom bats for India, with a lower sweet spot and heavier than normal to make up for the lack of weight and bounce.  I suspect this is a mistake.

I have also heard that the more you pay, the better the wood, which means lighter for a given volume - that's why Warner's Kaboom model in a kids size is hopeless because it is made with 5th grade willow and is like swinging a brick.  Current bats aren't pressed and are much drier, that's also why so many break.  My kids played their's in and oiled them because the grain started to open up at first.

[Pratty]

Not scoring runs but he has sucked Smith and crew in bigtime and got India back in the series...not sure why we continue to engage Kholi in the mind game stuff...
Smith looking at the dressing room for guidance on the review had his mind off the job and on Kholi..

On Dave Warner....looks a bit sick of International Cricket and touring IMO....needs a break...otherwise he might retire and stick to where the money is in IPL etc..IMHO.

Reckon Warner is a bit of a flat track bully. Creams attacks on Aus wickets and the like with that thick blade of his, then struggles in England against the moving ball and on the sub continent against gun spinners. And, he's a sook with a mouth. Cannot have him as our National Test VC.

[sydneybluesfan]

The selectors are taking the piss surely with the replacement for Marsh.

Firstly they now fess up that not only was he hopelessly out form prior to the tour, he was also carrying a shoulder injury that has now 'flared up' [after bowling 5 overs??]. Meanwhile we leave a fully fit Cartwright behind, after he performed ok in his only test.

We now select Stoinis - who has scored 160 runs this shield season at 16, but scored a great hundred in a meaningless ODI vs NZ. Meanwhile the other form all rounder in Australia - Moises Henriques, is peeling off huge runs [650 odd for the season at 65], and has just come off scoring a career best 250 and a nice half century yesterday. He's in career best form and ready to go, but we leave him at home.

The selectors decision to pick guys with little or no shield form for test cricket [Maddinson, Wade, Marsh] has been a disaster - but these blokes never learn their lessons. Who holds these guys accountable for their continual stupid and incoherent selection decisions??

Warner's record on the sub continent and England is terrible for one simple reason - his poor footwork gets found out against the moving or spinning ball. He moves his back foot to leg rather than back and across. And I don't think he's smart enough to adapt and fix the problem as it is so ingrained, so he tries to manufacture shots to try and mask problem. Unfortunately it's not working, and the quicker they get Kwaj in for him the better, but there is no way he will be dropped.