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(02-26-2017, 10:51 AM)DJC link Wrote:I'm still not sure why Harry shouldn't be played in the ruck ???
Apparently he has bulked up to 100kg and most of the top ruckmen in the competition began rucking at 19 years of age.
Size comes before strength. Wouldn't ruck McKay at 19. Kreuzer and Casboult will ruck for sure. That's actually been the our best combo for while anyway. Kreuzer tends to ruck much more and plays alot better while Casbout gets a chance to build his confidence by marking around the ground, where he seems do alot better. Reckon one of our defenders will go forward with McKay as we can play all of Rowe, Marchbank, Weitering and Plowman in defence.
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(02-27-2017, 03:49 AM)LP link Wrote:I think that is too simplistic, you are looking at it from a chasing perspective which is only a very small part of AFL pressure acts. Most teams, even the fastest, wouldn't effect more than 2 or 3 run down tackles a round on a good day.
Applying and building pressure has very little to do with chasing in a normal AFL game, pressure is applied when the ball is in dispute not when one team has clear possession. It's about being in the right places to create disputes and a contest, primarily by causing the ball carrier to be confused or slow to decide, not chasing ball carriers down.
Nobody can run as fast as a handball or kick, and once a player gets three or four clear steps 75% of the time he'll deliver clear possessions to advantage!
If you rely on running players down you have a losing strategy, you are trying to capture the horse that has bolted.
I'm not asking for much - just elite speed, endurance, tackling and skill level from all of our players.
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(02-27-2017, 08:59 AM)laj link Wrote:Size comes before strength. Wouldn't ruck McKay at 19. Kreuzer and Casboult will ruck for sure. That's actually been the our best combo for while anyway. Kreuzer tends to ruck much more and plays alot better while Casbout gets a chance to build his confidence by marking around the ground, where he seems do alot better. Reckon one of our defenders will go forward with McKay as we can play all of Rowe, Marchbank, Weitering and Plowman in defence.
Is Casboult the KPF closer to bridging the gap to Phillips as a ruck option, than Phillips is as a Ruck closing the gap to Casboult as a KPF?
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(02-27-2017, 09:23 AM)jeza link Wrote:I'm not asking for much - just elite speed, endurance, tackling and skill level from all of our players.
You want every Carlton player to be a Dangerfield, you want a team full of superstars. Teams like that do not exist!
I'm happy to have two or three superstars surrounded by committed and skilled quality grunts.
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(02-27-2017, 09:25 AM)LP link Wrote:Is Casboult the KPF closer to bridging the gap to Phillips as a ruck option, than Phillips is as a Ruck closing the gap to Casboult as a KPF?
I don't think Casboult will ever get close to Phillips when it comes to the ability to win ruck contests. However, Casboult is more effective around the ground in terms of providing a marking option and stopping opposition rucks from marking. Phillips as a KPF is simply a resting ruckman.
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(02-27-2017, 07:51 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:x2. I think you'd see the big Yank in action before young H gets rucked.
Tend to agree...young Harry is too important as a CHF to get banged up rucking, I think Sam Rowe will ruck part time and Alex Silvagni will play down back...
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Whilst Flipper rehabilitates, does anyone think the Jones boy might get a run?(potentially to free up Levi)
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I really can't buy the argument that you can't give a >200cm, >100kg 19 year old a run in the ruck because he might get hurt. If that's the case, you certainly wouldn't want him standing under a high ball in the hot spot or being picked up by Steven May : 
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(02-27-2017, 12:40 PM)DJC link Wrote:I really can't buy the argument that you can't give a >200cm, >100kg 19 year old a run in the ruck because he might get hurt. If that's the case, you certainly wouldn't want him standing under a high ball in the hot spot or being picked up by Steven May :
As the saying goes, if you're good enough, you're old enough.
It's not about age, it's about readiness.
He can either do it or he can't. The catch is you won't find out till you try it, and it will change weekly based on matchup.
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(02-27-2017, 11:32 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Whilst Flipper rehabilitates, does anyone think the Jones boy might get a run?(potentially to free up Levi)
Wouldn't surprise me.
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