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That reminds me of a sure way to wind up Essendon fans - declare that Carlton's won more GFs than any other team.  Essendon fans usually bite and argue that the drug cheats have won 16 too, but in fact they've won only 14. 
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(02-10-2017, 10:51 PM)Mav link Wrote:That reminds me of a sure way to wind up Essendon fans - declare that Carlton's won more GFs than any other team.  Essendon fans usually bite and argue that the drug cheats have won 16 too, but in fact they've won only 14.
Ive won a few bob in bets with that one over the years.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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So funny that conservatives have always been suspicious that left-wing politicians might be Soviet/Russian moles, and yet a nominally Republican White House is a front for the Kremlin  ;D
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(02-15-2017, 03:24 AM)Mav link Wrote:So funny that conservatives have always been suspicious that left-wing politicians might be Soviet/Russian moles, and yet a nominally Republican White House is a front for the Kremlin  ;D

That may have been the case back in the Soviet days but Putin's conservative nationalism is a good match for Trump's political views.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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(02-15-2017, 03:24 AM)Mav link Wrote:So funny that conservatives have always been suspicious that left-wing politicians might be Soviet/Russian moles, and yet a nominally Republican White House is a front for the Kremlin  ;D

The key word being "nominally"
A lot of Republicans will be less than impressed.
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They might not be impressed, but I doubt any will take Trump to task.  Remember the way they went after Clinton over Benghazi and her email server? They were essentially just alleging carelessness but here we have actual links o Russian intelligence services.  Yet McConnell has referred this issue to the Republican-controlled Intelligence Committee which sits in secret rather than holding public hearings as they did with Clinton.  The FBI might continue to investigate but Jeff Sessions, who was part of the Trump campaign crew, is now the A/G and can decline to take action. 

In other words, the GOP will be in bed with Russia whatever individual politicians might think about that.
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Given transcripts exist I'm pretty sure we'll see exactly what what was discussed and it will be pretty hard to cover anything up.
After that folks can make an informed opinion on how it impacts on individuals.
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What's your problem with Russians Mav?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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The neo cons hate Russia and Putin and so are gunning for Trump, or so it would seem. He has his work cut out to survive.
Reality always wins in the end.
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I have no problems with North Koreans, Chinese or Russians.  The females in each country can be very attractive.  Not sure about their attitudes to human rights though.  But how is my attitude to those countries relevant to what is good for the US?
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