A List with Real Potential

[LP]

If we finish bottom 4 this place will be a mess  :

We are miles away from GWS, Sydney and now CheatsFC and we still do not feature in the AFL's plans.

The other clubs I can't make up my mind about, but along with the premiers there are probably another six or eight that are remaining well ahead of us.

IMHO, that leaves us bottom six for 2017.

[DJC]

If we finish bottom 4 this place will be a mess  :

Back in October 2014 Kruddler and Raydan questioned my support for my club because I expressed an appropriately pessimistic view of our prospects.  We now have a coach who actually knows how to coach and has a game plan that works, a list manager who knows how to manage the list, an administration that is running the club well, a board that is staying out of the news and a playing group that is united and far superior to what we had going in to the 2015 season.

We'll get at least 10 wins and will finish in the middle six.

[Lods]

Pessimists ;D

We didn't finish bottom 4 this year.
Bottom 4 means going backwards
If we go backwards this place will not be pretty.

Now I'm not saying that's the right attitude but it's what will happen

People will accept a bit of pain for a while, and Bolton has more goodwill than all the coaches we've had in the last 14 years, but if we see no progress people will start to wonder whether not they're being fed bullshit.
That's been a pattern over the last decade.

People are patient and understanding now.
Twelve months from now they'll be less patient and understanding if we've made no apparent progress.
That's when the questions will start to be asked, queries at first followed by all out criticism the longer success eludes us.

Of course that's not going to happen...We'll be camped firmly in the 8-12 range on the ladder at season's end and we'll be well pleased with the progress.

[bratblue]

Of course that's not going to happen...We'll be camped firmly in the 8-12 range on the ladder at season's end and we'll be well pleased with the progress.

So no chance of this place being a mess......

[Gointocarlton]

Back in October 2014 Kruddler and Raydan questioned my support for my club because I expressed a pessimistic view of our prospects.  We now have a coach who actually knows how to coach and has a game plan that works, a list manager who knows how to manage the list, an administration that is running the club well, a board that is staying out of the news and a playing group that is united and far superior to what we had going in to the 2015 season.

We'll get at least 10 wins and will finish in the middle six.

I'm with you DJ, the positives are starting to outweigh the negatives. That will translate to a rise up the ladder. It may even happen sooner rather than later.

[flyboy77]

Whether our foreard line is successful - whomever plays in it - is largely a function of the success of the midfield.

pretty simple really.

[Lods]

So no chance of this place being a mess......

Nah
It will still be a mess ;D
...But not because we're bottom 4

On a serious note though...

Whether our foreard line is successful - whomever plays in it - is largely a function of the success of the midfield.

pretty simple really.

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A lot of where we finish will be dependent on our ability to kick winning scores.
Whether that results from the midfield or an improved forward structure you would have to be confident it is one area where we can improve significantly.

[kruddler]

Whether our foreard line is successful - whomever plays in it - is largely a function of the success of the midfield.

pretty simple really.

You can have the best forwardline in the comp.....if your midfield is no good....chances are your team is no good.

But having a decent midfield and a crap forwardline isn't going to win you many finals matches.....if you get there at all.

Sooner or later, we need to ensure our forwardline is not reliant upon Casboults ability to put the ball through the big sticks. The longer we rely on that, the longer we waste time on rebuilding.

[kruddler]

I think we probably have thinking here, one exception you're looking back, mentioning players who are gone.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

We've had new coaches before.
We've had new admintrators before.
We've had new....everything before.

Everytime we are convinced that THIS time its different.

Eventually, it will be different. Chances are it is now....we are due! However, i'm not counting my chickens until they are hatched and all grown up and still wearing navy blue.

We've had this debate many a time in the past. Optimistic, pessimistic.......realistic. Its all relative.

An optimist looking at a realist thinks they are a pessimist.
A pessimist looking at a realist thinks they are an optimist.
An optimist looking at another optimist thinks they are both realistic. Ditto pessimists.

I'd like to think of myself as a realist, as i'm sure everyone would. I just think people talking about our forwardline scaring oppositions when half of it has a handful of games between them is stretching the 'realism' a bit too far

[flyboy77]

You can have the best forwardline in the comp.....if your midfield is no good....chances are your team is no good.

But having a decent midfield and a crap forwardline isn't going to win you many finals matches.....if you get there at all.

Sooner or later, we need to ensure our forwardline is not reliant upon Casboults ability to put the ball through the big sticks. The longer we rely on that, the longer we waste time on rebuilding.

Are you on the juice today because that is one daft comment!?