(08-20-2016, 02:21 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Thomas' second half last week was good and he can hit targets, which is more than can be said for about half of our current team.
Carlton supporters in general will never accept Daisy as a Carlton player, there's just too much Collingwood history there, but he's a long way from our worst in my opinion.
I'd be surprised if we got within 6 goals tomorrow.
There's probably an element of the Collingwood factor....also a bit of Malthouse resentment attached to his being a part of our list..... but it's a bit like the situation with Brock McLean.
He's come to us for what many of us consider "way overs" in terms of salary and the lack of compensation for Betts has meant that we (rightly) questioned the net value of his acquisition. Continuing injury problems in subsequent years have only reinforced that resentment.
McLean was the same.We gave up a first round Draft pick for a player with question marks over his fitness. McLean struggled with injury for a couple of years but he did play some good football (often forgotten) when these injuries settled down.
Salary considerations aside (and that's another issue)...If Thomas can get an injury free run he could still be a useful player for us.
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Daisy's main problem with CFC supporters is that he has not been able to produce any sparkling match-winning performances that have won games and excited the supporters BUT at the same time he is being paid what many consider to be a huge amount of money. Added to that, he is seen as MM's pet.
Unfortunately for Daisy (and CFC I guess) this situation is unlikely to change as his body does not now appear capable of recapturing those golden moments. He is destined to remain then just an average player for us who is seen as being vastly over-paid. Would be great if that could change but I doubt it and it will be interesting to see what happens when his contract runs out.
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I understand the reasons for the resentment Lods but he's on our list and wearing the jumper, and it seems to me that he gives 100% when he runs out.
I for one am happy to see him wearing Navy Blue, God knows we're well short on class and even half fit he's well ahead of the four or five players that we rotate in and out of the VFL.
He might even go a bit better if he thought that the supporters were behind him, he's not an idiot and he'd pick up on the fact that half of them resent his being at the club.
It can't be easy for him under those circumstances.
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(08-20-2016, 03:35 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Would be great if that could change but I doubt it and it will be interesting to see what happens when his contract runs out.
He'll finish his career at Carlton on less money than he's on now, but will the supporters ever accept and support him?
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(08-20-2016, 03:40 AM)blue4life link Wrote:He'll finish his career at Carlton on less money than he's on now, but will the supporters ever accept and support him? I (most of the time) support all players who wear the navy blue CFC jumper. Whilst his output has not been commensurate with this pay (and I say again that I have been told by someone who would know its not what has been reported in the media), he appears to give his all and from all reports is a good leader. Does he deserve a spot in the side on current form? I'm sure if there was a replacement in the 2's to play his role, or allow deck chairs to be shuffled, the change would have been made. The reality is we don't have the depth just yet. I also agree he will be on a significantly reduced package when its time to renew.
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(08-20-2016, 03:40 AM)blue4life link Wrote:He'll finish his career at Carlton on less money than he's on now, but will the supporters ever accept and support him?
Yes it annoys the sh1te! out of me when fans deride someone wearing the navy blue, it shouldn't happen, it should never happen!
If a blokes out there with the jumper on, making an effort, regardless of form and function, he is 100% Carlton. Fans should accept that fact and fall in behind every one of them with 100% support.
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(08-20-2016, 04:25 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes it annoys the sh1te! out of me when fans deride someone wearing the navy blue, it shouldn't happen, it should never happen!
If a blokes out there with the jumper on, making an effort, regardless of form and function, he is 100% Carlton. Fans should accept that fact and fall in behind everyone of them with 100% support.
Damn right!
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(08-20-2016, 04:25 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes it annoys the sh1te! out of me when fans deride someone wearing the navy blue, it shouldn't happen, it should never happen!
If a blokes out there with the jumper on, making an effort, regardless of form and function, he is 100% Carlton. Fans should accept that fact and fall in behind everyone of them with 100% support. 100% LP, however I admit to slipping up on this at times when the emotions take over.
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I've attended plenty of games this year and tbh I haven't heard anything negative from the crowd directed at Daisy specifically. OK he isn't setting the world on fire but I think supporters are resigned to the fact that he's there for the time being and he does get encouraged, as do other players, when he does do something good.
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(08-20-2016, 04:55 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I've attended plenty of games this year and tbh I haven't heard anything negative from the crowd.........
The supporters on this forum must be the exception to the rule in that case because he sure cops some crap on here.
I was discussing the CFC with my sister this morning, who is a life long and passionate Blue, and she hasn't got a good word to say about him.
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