Rd 20; Carlton vs St Kilda: Post Game Profanity

[Lods]

..... most of the blokes who played in the seniors today will still be at the club next season.

Yep
The major culling will come from those that can't make this side.
But I suspect, as you point out in a later post, there will be a few who played to-day who will spend most of their time playing for the NB's next year.

That was awful.
We didn't come to play today and that showed in the effort.
If we can hold up Sydney and Hawthorn players there's no excuse for letting St Kilda players waltz through and around us.

[Gointocarlton]

Yep
The major culling will come from those that can't make this side.
But I suspect, as you point out in a later post, there will be a few who played to-day who will spend most of their time playing for the NB's next year.

That was awful.
We didn't come to play today and that showed in the effort.
If we can hold up Sydney and Hawthorn players there's no excuse for letting St Kilda players waltz through and around us.

I was behind the goals at the Punt Rd end in P6. Perfect spot to watch the set ups, ball movement etc . Gee we made dumb decisions, all day from the first bounce. Utterly terrible today, worst game I have seen in a long time. StK looked like they had 3 more blokes on the ground.
As someone else said, 2E, Doc, Cripps and Simmo, then the length of the Flemmington straight to the next. And even those made some fundamental errors but can walk off the ground with there heads held high.

[pinot]

Tutt, Whiley, Smith, DVR, Foster, Dick, Jones is seven changes already.

Gowers and Byrne promotion.. five picks in national draft not happening unless we trade out someone.

[blue4life]

Yep
The major culling will come from those that can't make this side.
But I suspect, as you point out in a later post, there will be a few who played to-day who will spend most of their time playing for the NB's next year.

The only NB's player I think could make it, apart from a few first year players who need to be cut some slack, is Liam Sumner.
He has some pace and skill but he needs to improve by 40 or 50%, whether he can is another matter.
From the little VFL I've seen Vojo looks OK to me as well but the club has a different opinion of him than I do it seems.

That was awful.
We didn't come to play today and that showed in the effort.
If we can hold up Sydney and Hawthorn players there's no excuse for letting St Kilda players waltz through and around us.

We go much better is a tight, hard slog, if teams can break the game open our lack of pace and foot skills get exposed.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Never been a fan, has always been ordinary. Many posters were adamant it was MMs fault and that Graham would make it and be a gun. He is a VFL player at best. Should never play another game again.
And as far as giving fair well games, I've changed my mind as that was a complete fail and an embarrassment. Games should be earnt no matter what. I also hope Daisy does the honourable thing also and announces his retirement effective immediately.

I think Graham is done and dusted...too slow at this level and doesnt have the Sam Mitchell skill level to make up for it....

re: Thomas....agree with Brettie....gone as a player but with a year left will we are stuck with him.....did support Kerridge when Steven and another Sant were roughing him up but he isnt  giving us 750k's worth every week and is a bust...

Simon White...only target he will ever hit is at a night club and it wouldnt want to be moving....

Thought we won the hitouts but didnt seem to get much impact from it...

Kade Simpson....dont leave us mate, along with Cripps and Doherty you are the only thing between us and the bottom of the ladder....

Buckley and Boekhorst can join Graham and White in the out tray at seasons end.....

[blue4life]

Tutt, Whiley, Smith, DVR, Foster, Dick, Jones is seven changes already.

Gowers and Byrne promotion.. five picks in national draft not happening unless we trade out someone.

Jones is contracted but you can add Walker and Jamison.

[Gointocarlton]

I think Graham is done and dusted...too slow at this level and doesnt have the Sam Mitchell skill level to make up for it....

100% EB, Mitchell creates time and space, Graham is just a waste of space.

[pinot]

nine changes is too much i admire sos's talent but asking for miracles to nail pick 82, 100, and 118

[PaulP]

Too many of our players are either one trick ponies or half baked footballers - I won't name them as it's futile. They can do one thing to an adequate level, but seem deficient in other key areas.

Very depressing game. Too much left to too few.

[pinot]

I think Casboult, Phillips, Gorringe, Rowe and McKay would need to ruck next two years and trade Kreuzer and find a proper ruck in 2019.