Rd 18: Pre Game Polite Discourse: Carlton vs Sydney

[Jeffy38]

I'd give Weitering a break and play Jaksch at CHB.  I can understand a bloke needing a game or  two to get used to the speed of the main game but a repeat of the poor workrate would not be tolerated.

Agree with this. Weiters has looked knackered for a month at least. Jacksh needs to be thrown in the deep end

[cookie2]

Agree with this. Weiters has looked knackered for a month at least. Jacksh needs to be thrown in the deep end

If the club  has any doubts about KJ's attitude or application he should be given a few games to find out once and for all.

[DJC]

If the club  has any doubts about KJ's attitude or application he should be given a few games to find out once and for all.

The club will know everything about KJ's attitude and application from the time he's been with us and from SOS's knowledge of him at GWS.  I think that it's more his effort and ability to perform at AFL level that's subject to doubt.

I'd be happy to see him get another go next week but I wouldn't be surprised if he runs out with the NBs.

[crashlander]

I'd give Weitering a break and play Jaksch at CHB.  I can understand a bloke needing a game or  two to get used to the speed of the main game but a repeat of the poor workrate would not be tolerated.

I'd like to give Weitering a break: you are right, he does need it. His form and confidence have been down lately. His injury may not be major (hope not!), but it does allow us to give him a reasonable rest.
Jaksch needs to have his chance. Last year he showed a bit, but couldn't put it all together. He needs to have a chance now. Sydney might now be the best test for him, nor Hawthorn the week after, but if he can show something in these 2 weeks then he has succeeded. Tests like Sydney and Hawthorn do not get any harder. Get through those and he has shown he is worth continuing with. Other chances will follow and be deserved. Fail, on the other hand, and it tells us, and more importantly the coaching staff, what they NEED to know.

It is one of the reasons I would drop Charlie Curnow. He does need to be tested, but it doesn't have to happen until he is ready for it. I don't think he is ready for it yet. If he comes off, it is a HUGE plus, but it is a risk that we don't need to take. But then, does Levi deserve to come back directly? He has generally not played well against Sydney in the past.

What about Thomas? Does he deserve to come straight back in if he is fit enough? And who does he replace? I would bring him back via the VFL, but that has not generally been the case with him. He has usually been brought back without the chance to find form and assure people of his fitness.

I don't mind us playing with the team structure in the next few weeks. We don't have anything to lose. But I would like to see something like our strongest side for the last few rounds. There we could well get some wins. I would also like to make sure that we know what our strongest side should look like. If the next couple of rounds can shine some light upon that, then they have been well spent. 

[cookie2]

The club will know everything about KJ's attitude and application from the time he's been with us and from SOS's knowledge of him at GWS.  I think that it's more his effort and ability to perform at AFL level that's subject to doubt.

I'd be happy to see him get another go next week but I wouldn't be surprised if he runs out with the NBs.

Effort is a product of attitude and application. Ability is another matter and you don't necessarily need it to make an effort if you have a good attitude.

Plenty of players with ability have not made it due to poor attitude and application at the AFL level. Let's hope he's not one of them.

[pinot]

Effort is a product of attitude and application. Ability is another matter and you don't necessarily need it to make an effort if you have a good attitude.

Plenty of players with ability have not made it due to poor attitude and application at the AFL level. Let's hope he's not one of them.

Some players have different development rates albeit have loads of talent.

You're hoping Jaksch is better this year than last year and his VFL form suggests it is.

If he keeps improving every year then he will be a good player for us... confidence is the key as well. Don't think it is attitude or effort more than trying to add some strings to his bow and confidence.

[DJC]

Some players have different development rates albeit have loads of talent.

You're hoping Jaksch is better this year than last year and his VFL form suggests it is.

If he keeps improving every year then he will be a good player for us... confidence is the key as well. Don't think it is attitude or effort more than trying to add some strings to his bow and confidence.

I thought he was better last year  ???

Before he was injured he looked OK as a defender.  I remember him going forward and kicking a nice goal too.

[townsendcalling]

Out: Jaksch Lamb

In:    Boekhorst Casboult

[laj]

One key forward only again. We're zero from 9 when we've done that and got over 10 goals twice. We're not quick learners there.

[Gointocarlton]

KJ papers appear stamped then. Whilst he didn't set the world on fire, I thought he would have been given one more go. We're playing Sydney, gonna get pumped anyway. What's there to lose?